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To: Doughboy who wrote (8657)10/22/1998 2:57:00 PM
From: Zoltan!  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
>>wing state voters (Washington, NC, Kentucky, Ohio, California) are showing much more support for the President than the deep South. The backlash against House Republicans may bounce a few key races to the Dems: Jay Inslee and Linda Smith in Washington, Lauch Faircloth in NC, Bob Inglis in SC, John Ensign in Nevada.

Actually, you have it backwards. Swing voters are joining the Republicans in competitive races. I expect all of the above the races you mentioned to go to the Republicans.

This election is shaping up to be a reprise of 1994. Wouldn't it be just great if Tuttle beat Leahy in VT? That would be divine.

btw, Inslee should never go on camera, he's a feckless speaker - when you can understand him, that is.

HEY, REPUBLICANS: CHEER UP!

By WILLIAM KRISTOL

FRIENDS, Republicans, countrymen: Cheer up!
(Especially Republicans.) The GOP will do well on
Election Day, capping the best three elections
cycles for a political party since the Democrats in
the 1930s.

Contrary to Democratic spin, media bias, and
liberal wishful thinking, the Republicans do look
strong for Nov. 3. In the past week, most polls
have shown Republicans ahead among likely
voters in the generic congressional ballot. And
Republicans always do better on Election Day
than mid-October polls suggest: They outspend
the Democrats in the last two weeks, and their
voters turn out in greater numbers than
pre-election surveys usually foresee.

There was a front-page Washington Post story
last week that particularly depressed Republicans
(who are all too easily depressed by unfavorable
Post stories). It was a report on the Post's own
poll that highlighted an alleged 9-point Democratic
lead. As it happened, the lead among likely voters
was only 4 points - and even that contrasts with
Newsweek and New York Times polls showing
Republican leads among likely voters of 4 to 8
points. Note, too, that the Washington Post in
October 1996 had Democrats with an even larger
lead over Republicans among registered voters -
and the GOP nevertheless held both chambers of
Congress.

What's more, the dynamics this year are more
favorable to Republicans than in 1996. We have a
GOP Congress that has produced a tax cut and a
budget surplus rather than a government
shutdown; a president on the verge of
impeachment rather than on the verge of
re-election - and most telling of all, total hysteria
among liberal columnists about the impending
victory of Kenneth Starr and everything he
represents: "sexual McCarthyism," the Salem
witch trials, the rise of the GOP's "Taliban wing"
and other frightening phenomena.

It is a reliable rule of American politics: Hysteria on
the op-ed page of the New York Times is a
harbinger of good news for Republicans, glad
tidings for conservatives.

The GOP strategy for the remaining two weeks of
the election campaign is pretty obvious: a soft,
positive, moderately conservative message that
reassures swing voters. Republicans don't have to
raise the issue of Clinton and his coming
impeachment; they can count on an undercurrent
of disgust at Clinton and the party that props him
up to drive GOP voters to the polls. And to win
over less partisan, less anti-Clinton types - who
may be wary of impeachment - Republicans can
tout the reasonably good times that four years of a
GOP Congress has brought.

There are, it's true, big splits in the Republican
Party. Those splits will lead to a fierce debate
among presidential contenders for 2000. But for
now, Republicans have a simple task: Get along
with one another for two weeks, appear cheerful
and unthreatening, and wind up after Nov. 3 in the
best position they've had in 70 years.

Then they can concentrate on their real mission -
to drive New York Times contributors and other
liberal muckety-mucks nuts.
nypost.com



To: Doughboy who wrote (8657)10/22/1998 7:00:00 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
OFF TOPIC: NO ONE HERE READ THIS...

Clinton Supporters Float 'Immunity' Deal

Goal is to quicken impeachment process

Francine Kiefer
Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON

Clinton supporters are floating an idea that would fast-track the impeachment process, bringing to a quick resolution the
charges hanging over the head of the president.

Under such an agreement, President Clinton would admit his testimony has been "less than truthful" regarding his relationship
with Monica Lewinsky, according to former White House counsel Lanny Davis.

But in return, Congress would guarantee that the president's admission could not be used against him in any subsequent
criminal or civil action - a move that would be tantamount to giving Clinton immunity.

Mr. Clinton and his lawyers have been reluctant to follow Democratic lawmakers' admonition to "come clean" about the
Lewinsky affair.

Their concern centers around the possibility that such statements would weaken the president's position in the Paula Jones
case, if it is reinstated, or in a criminal case that could be brought by independent counsel Kenneth Starr.

Mr. Davis says he has been talking about the idea with people inside and outside the White House, and with Republicans and
Democrats.

'Anything that would
require us to formally
grant immunity, I
would be skeptical
about.
- Rep. Charles Canady
(R)

"This deal, if it can be worked out, is very doable for all sides," he said yesterday at a Monitor breakfast, a day when the
president's lawyers met with members of the House Judiciary Committee to discuss ground rules for impeachment hearings.

Why would Republicans agree?

The attraction to Republicans, Davis explained, would be in the president's admission that he had not told the truth. The official
White House position still is that Clinton was legally correct in his answers in the Paula Jones deposition and in his testimony
before Mr. Starr's grand jury, even if he was misleading.

The attraction to the Democrats would be a fairly quick hearings process.

If the president agreed that he didn't tell the truth about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky, it wouldn't be necessary to
delve into what would amount to a long and embarrassing discussion about the definition of sex.

But this idea is not without risk. For Clinton, the danger lies in setting up the deal as something other than a formal immunity
agreement.

Congress has granted immunity before, such as to Oliver North in the Iran-contra scandal. But it's not clear whether
lawmakers have the power to grant immunity to the nation's chief executive. Moreover, it's doubtful Republicans would agree
to this, even if they could.

"Anything that would require us to formally grant immunity, I would be skeptical about," says Rep. Charles Canady (R) of
Florida, a member of the House Judiciary Committee.

Never before tested

Because an approach like the one Davis is suggesting has never before been tested, there's a chance that Starr, or Ms. Jones's
lawyers, could challenge these protections in court.

"There's only one person who can protect the president from prosecution, and that's the independent counsel," says Jonathan
Turley, a law professor at George Washington University.

Mr. Turley, who once filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of Starr in the Lewinsky investigation, says that Starr would
probably grant the president a plea bargain or immunity if he would admit publicly to having lied.

But both Turley and Davis acknowledge that Clinton would never go to Starr for a plea agreement because of the personal
animosity between them.