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To: Bruce Tiemann who wrote (21036)	10/22/1998 8:29:00 PM
From: Frank Griffin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 50167

Any comments on Travelgate? How about the 900+ FBI files inappropriately obtained? Can you explain or justify why no one knows who hired the fellow in charge of security? I can't remember his name but I do remember he was a bar bouncer prior to being hired for this powerful position. Also, this was done without him having received a security clearance. Do you approve of giving access to the White House and our President for financial contributions from foreign nationals? Should our foreign policy be influenced by political contributions? Should our Vice-President go to a mosque and accept 5000. each from dozens of inhabitants who, by general knowledge, are sworn to poverty? Does our President have responsibility for moral leadership? Do you think it is bad for the president of any organization to seduce or be seduced by a young lady just out of her teens? Should the board of directors of such an organization or country just look away? If she would have been 5 years younger would it not have qualified as statutory rape? Is that fair? Do you think this experience has been good for our country? Would you want your son or daughter to gain their parameters of life by using our president as their role model? I am trying to learn so I would be very interested in your comments. Thanks, Frank

To: Bruce Tiemann who wrote (21036)	10/23/1998 8:00:00 AM
From: Joe S Pack	Respond to of 50167

IQ, I follow the same family tradition. In America and several western countries these basic values have been mortgaged for so called free expression and individual freedom. Only in this country a parent may be sued for spanking a unruley child. So much so far the family values. It is interesting to see that people keep blaming Clinton for his wrong doing. Yes he is an idiot and did not utilize the best chance he had to go in the history as the one of the best presidents America had. (he never risked military, good economic progress, strived for peace around world, presided over the info economy etc. etc.). Part of the blame should be given to those self-appointed moral authroities on fishing expedition. Look at this pathetic media. In most cases they spew drivel and garbage day in day out in the name of free expression. They even go to the extend to destroy personal lives without facts and get away with it. they can even government secrets and claim that they cannot reveal the source. there should be a standard by which they should be punished if they are wrong. Who prompted them to televise the garbage? Where are our moral authorities when these sleazy congress put the porno-report on the net without bothering about exposing kids. Now they want to control the child pornography and other porno material. what a double standard. Look at the people who wants Clinton to be impeached. Newt a known lier and was censored, who had the kindness to ask for divorce when his wife was in hospital. Henry Hyde who had broke a family and had affair in mid 40s and claims that that was an "youthful endevor". He even supported one of his Republican congressmen from Illinoise on the floor and asked for forgiveness for that guys fiddling with a teen. Look at Dan Burton who was exposed recently for having fathered a son out of wedlock and now he preaches having a child outside the wedlock is not wrong as long as you support the children financially. This list can go on. If we want to make our children proud of us we parents should paw way for it. We as voter have the power to change those rascalls and straighten these corrupt politico-press system. But we don't have guts nor vision to do that. We vote based our short memory and emotional baits that these politicians throw during election times. We fall prey for this sleazy media and spin they put every day. Every thing should start from School board to local governments to judicial system to financial system. Well if you look for rationality, as Aynn RAnd put it, you will be vilified and have to banish from the face of the moochary world. If we are that sophisticated we could have been a far better country than today and the whole world can a far better place. if we want to respect privacy then we should give equal importance to everybody including elected officials. -Karun