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To: jbe who wrote (10990)10/23/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Come on jbe...

<<Now, I personally do not know how many spies for "friendly countries" we have found, tried, and sentenced. I don't even know what countries they spied for->>

But you do know who Pollard was spying against right?

I am real confused by your attitude on this.

<<And why aren't we celebrating the fact that the Israelis and Palestinians have finally signed an agreement "of sorts"? >>

You really think this one is going to make it around the block? I wish I was a betting man. What a haul I could make here.



To: jbe who wrote (10990)10/23/1998 9:13:00 PM
From: dougjn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
JBE, firstly, I really like your voice. I think I would like you in person quite a lot.

Secondly, re: why aren't we celebrating the peace accord. I agree with you. I guess I'm taking it for granted, in terms of what to bitch about on this forum. But as far as Clinton's achievements go, I think it's a biggie. He deserves much credit. And I think he's getting it. He deserves it.

Thirdly, re: Pollard, other spies for "friendly" countries, and the like.

Firstly, I think the reason he was not sentenced to die is that the death penalty for spies came in after he was first charged.

Secondly, I do not believe that any other spy for a "friendly" country has ever stolen information which remotely approached the level of importance of what Pollard stole.

Beyond that, I don't think that any foreign country is fully friendly. Certainly not Israel. Probably at the moment (although 1987-90 is really the most relevant period) Canada and Great Britain would be our closest allies. Israel is an ally, but mostly of the takes, and doesn't give, variety.

However, the primary thing is this. It is not up to any Jewish American to decide just how much the national security agencies of the United States should give to Israel. It is up to our democratically elected President, and Congress. It is perfectly legitimate for Jewish Americans to lobby, give money, and vote, to increase the sharing. It is criminally illegitimate for them to decide to violate our national secrecy laws and give unreleased secrets to the Israeli government.

I passionately believe that is a hanging offense. If Pollard was convicted in a pre-hanging era, well, at least keep him in jail forever.

Doug