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To: Tulvio Durand who wrote (18435)	10/26/1998 4:58:00 PM
From: JRH	Respond to of 77398

Does anyone recall the name of the Cisco engineer (who could be queried about this) who occasionally posts to this thread? You mean John Cavanaugh??

To: Tulvio Durand who wrote (18435)	10/26/1998 5:35:00 PM
From: The Phoenix	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77398

Tulvio, Yes, I saw that article and the one in NW. They are articles. Cisco customers want directory - they've been sold on the promise of what it can do. It's not an NDS versus NT5.0 A/D situation. It's a situation of NDS versus nothing..at least right now. NDS doesn't have the LU schema and therefore LU will have to build that in. When NT5.0 ships it will have Cisco schema. In effect (in reality) CSCO/MSFT's products are ahead. The LU/NDS announcement is not a product. OG

To: Tulvio Durand who wrote (18435)	10/27/1998 4:08:00 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77398

Tulvio, I don't have any insight into the Novell vs Microsoft directory wars. On the Juniper front - they are an exciting startup, as are a number of others. However, don't discount the 18 month lead we have with the 12000 series and don't assume we have stopped developing :-) If you remember, Ascends GRF was faster/smarter/better/cheaper than our 7500 or 12000 a while back. Today it almost doesn't exist. Their market share at the high end doesn't even break 1%. What most new vendors discount is the complexity of supporting routing protocols in a multivendor environment. Juniper is better situated than the others and has the potential. Can they execute? - only time can tell. This may sound arrogant, but I see the startups changing the makeup of the market we do not own (again discussing the high end routers only). John