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To: jach who wrote (18477)	10/28/1998 10:22:00 AM
From: Kevin G. O'Neill	Respond to of 77398

<<These [IP PBX] products never got a significant foot hold and imo, never ever will become popular compared to the tried-and-true simple to use POT (Plain Old Telephone). >> But in all business offices and even some homes now, the POT has really been dead for a long time. A merlin legend/definity system is not a POT connected to a telco central office; it is really an old proprietary network running agacent to an advancing, standards based network that is ever gaining in capacity to handle larger numbers of applications. Business telephone service has, for some time now, been simply an application run on a network, which I think the article made pretty clear.

To: jach who wrote (18477)	10/28/1998 11:52:00 AM
From: The Phoenix	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77398

Jach, <IP phone, connects directly to an IP network versus a 10BaseT connection> nothing new here, some companies such as Unisys (Convergent) had done this type of thing more than ten years ago for products like these. These products never got a significant foot hold and imo, never ever will become popular compared to the tried-and-true simple to use POT (Plain Old Telephone). Isn't that quite an analogy, no matter what kind of new cooking technique and gadgets come along, the tried-and-true simple frying pan (and the stew pot) is still used world-wide. Jach, if you don't think IP telephony and data/voice convergence will be a huge win for the carriers and thier customers then you need to do more research. IP telephony will increase revenues and bring down costs for the carriers. It will also provide consumers with a single point of contact for home connectivity. That's right you call one 'carrier' and you get data, voice, and video access..perhaps even telemetry - all at speeds 10 or more times faster than a modem. Second, I'm not sure what you're referring to with Convergent, but DSP technology and telephony algorithms were terrible 10 years ago. I was intimately involved with one of the first forays into data/voice convergence over "packet based networks" while I was at MICOM..that was 11 years ago. We had (arguably) the first data/compressed voice product on the market - and that voice quality was poor at best. Today, G.729 on a packet network is toll quality. Furthermore using G.711 over an integrated network provides Carrier TOLL quality service. So, tell me why IP telephony won't fly. OG

To: jach who wrote (18477)	10/28/1998 11:59:00 AM
From: frankd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77398

JachOff: You're posts are less entertaining than SchlockMan. You obviously know little about the industry shift and the importance of voice-over-xx technology. Maybe you have missed a few things: Nortel bought Bay - Not for their telephones Lucent is at the swapmeet - Not looking for phones AT&T Executives - Commented AT&T will not buy another circuit switch H.323 - You do the reading Hopefully, comments made on this thread a joined with a serious amount of research before spending money!