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To: gregor who wrote (782)	10/30/1998 9:57:00 AM
From: Grantcw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14396

Hello gregor and all, This is a definite change of topic, but I received some prayer last night and am a little confused about it so I thought I'd bring it to the prayer thread! Any help would be appreciated! I was getting prayed for in a Chrismatic small group, and one girl praying for me said, "I pray that the Holy Spirit would never leave you again." Am I missing something here? Isn't the Holy Spirit ever present within us? Could she be talking about being "filled" with the Holy Spirit? Was she maybe just fumbling at words and said something a bit wierd to my ears? I really am still just a baby when learning about the nature of the Holy Spirit and would like to hear from anyone concerning this issue as I think it's taking up too much of my time thinking about it! I tried to talk to her afterwards, but she left abruptly. Thanks in advance and God Bless, Grant

To: gregor who wrote (782)	10/30/1998 11:36:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 14396

Gregor, I wish you did have more time to ramble on. Haven't cracked a book on anything yet. This week-end I will. Reeva's grandson. PRobably a punk-rock music addict and either into beer or hard drugs. Put that with cigarettes and you have someone who has a disentigrating brain structure, while the vital organs deteriorate at a much slower rate. My son is in that group. He would classified as a healthy looking counterpart of an Auchwitz inmate after the war, if his body chemistry were analyzed. I don't think he's eaten anything really healthy in 5 years. He needs much prayer, as his worldly fling has turned into a nightmare and he is too unable to think clearly to find a way out. So, reaching bottom is what people are told to wait for, and things will turn around, but only if the person reaching bottom is still working with a normal brain. Very scary situation. Please keep him in prayer, I won't put his name here as the thought would put him over the edge. Clinton, the conquering hero sex addict DURING OFFICE HOURS....we don't have much of a clue what he does in total private hours....how creepy and scary a thought... surrounded by clouded deaths, comes to national TV in a few hours to proclaim HIS part in restoring the world to normality within a few week. A new plan he has. To be revealed in a few hours. We are standing on the edge of the abyss. The entire International Conspiracy, plunging their local regions into pathetic little bogus two and three day "crashes", only to revive within a afew trading hours globally, will now come out with the futuristic horror overstructure the conspiracists have been screaming warnings to you all for 20 years now. It is my guess that unprepared and without a clue Americans are standing out in the wheat field far from the barn as the funnel cloud forms slightly out of view. I don't know what to warn, except that you all were warned. That's about all anyone can actually do or say, I guess. Wish I had more clearer direction myself at this point. But the World Bank and the World Police and the World Satanic Leader will be ushered in and the "Pres", known sex addict, perv and surrounded by strange suicides, murders and deaths, is all a precursor proving that the world is quite ready for satan, I believe. I also believe that the awful silence fromthe outraged, horrified and ready to die to change things Islamic militants, who equate us all, ESPRECIALLY THE "JESUS" ASSOCIATED, SCRIPTURE DRIBBLING LEADERS WHOSE LIVES ARE PUTRID ON THE SURFACE, will become much more visible. Here, there, everywhere. I would assume they will try to eliminate Clinton somehow, if possible. Perhaps they are keeping everything quiet to appear all at once. But they are not unaware or retired. As always, hope that I am just a little nuts and know nothing. But as the Dow rises, satan vomits his puke upon us all and we just wipe it off and continue to buy fields. It is like the entire world has gone mad. And the Islamic madmen probably multiply daily at an alarming rate, while the Christian Americans groups together to bob to carnal rock music screaming the name of Jesus. Is something wrong with this picture? Or is it that there is something wrong with me? Who knows. I guess we'll all find out. I believe we should pray more than anything to be able to see Truth if it is still possible to see it.

To: gregor who wrote (782)	11/1/1998 1:53:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 14396

Dear, dear Gregor. Finally spent some time looking at symptoms. I wish I could put my thoughts into concise sentences. But I can't. Itis something that can no more be put in a few sentences than one could explain the process of acupuncture. It just can't be done, its too complex and need far, far too much biological explanation and background. Lupus. Remember that I said Barre syndrom, Lupus and others seemed to be exactly like the descriptions of major vitamin deficiencies? Like B3, the horrible, yhorrible death called "Beri-Beri" and the horrible death of the English sailors from lack of vitamin C? All vitamin deficiencies are like diseases themselves. Anyway, what I found was the strongest possible reason for your friend to examine how much copper and lead she has been exposed to. The only way to rid the body of these things is to take more zinc than normal for awhile--OF COURSE NOT OVERDOSING AS THAT BRINGS ON MORE PROBLEMS THE OTHER WAY--and "chealating". That's a common process I didn't research. Copper is totally overlooked in human nutrition and yet it has a most important role. Copper overdoses are deadly, leading to physical and emotional destruction. Deficiencies are just as bad. We HAVE TO HAVE ADEQUATE COPPER. You know how you can overdose with copper, beyond drinking water straight from the tap in older houses? Beer. I guess its one of the 420 chemicals they use in cheap beer and maybe even expensive mass produced beer to give it color, foam, etc. I remember very specifically a bunch of blue color guys dying from a beer fest from an OVERDOSE OF BORON WAS IT? SOME MAJOR CHEMICAL. They died. From beer. THat was over 15 years ago. IT was the chemical they used to use for chemotherapy also. Can';t remember right now. Anyway, the study of trace minerals is showing me that all disease is in fact and without a doubt--other than killer viruses, of course, which are alive and invade and kill--the result of trace mineral unbalance added to vitamin breakdown. That's why I have felt so unbelievably good after 3 months of WaterOz mineral water, or the Water of Life, which is just purified water with all o fhte best sources of all of the trace minerals, in the proper relationship to each other. I wonder if your friend has been poisoned with copper and lead? It's hard not to be close to that with all of us. Interestingly, I sitll have to take B6 by the pill or I start to rust up like the tin man. This has been ongoing for most of my adult life. Therefore, the trace minerals do not do the work of B6, althought B6 I'm sure is made of certain trace minerals. I need to research B6 to figure it out. Have to go. There is just no time for the net for me, and I feel panicked when I turn it on anymore as the time evaporates away so quickly. "I'll be back!"

To: gregor who wrote (782)	11/1/1998 2:13:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14396

Thank you so much Gregor. I never have the time to find this wonderful stuff on the net. I am very amazed over Alan Keyes, however. So, I did find this and just pass it on for general interest. If our Lord were backing any human being's efforts right now, then most certainly HE IS backing the efforts of Alan Keyes. That gives me much better places to gripe, also, than on the prayer thread, which of course the thread was not designed for. :) sandh.com Please, just check it out, as this is something, along with the return of Bob Dole to speak here and there, that to me speaks of a last minute revolt on the part of the righteous. One that in scripture will not prosper, but which MAY bring about an actual national revival, where it appears nothing else has a prayer of doing right now. Just for everyones info bank.