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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11514)	10/28/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 67261

<<Once the teacher pay issue is resolved, the next embarrassing topic to address with regard to schools are building conditions. >> In the two districts I pay into they went for the Al Gore internet deal. Got the ok and spent $750,000. Then after it was done got turned down. Our local district built two new schools because they didn't have enough students to fill the old building. That was local money, not federal. New building equal kick backs. I agree teachers should be paid more, but make it a 12 month job. And even though Slick doesn't like it make sure they can teach.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11514)	10/29/1998 1:19:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 67261

<<Once the teacher pay issue is resolved, the next embarrassing topic to address with regard to schools are building conditions.>> There is no incentive in the system for teachers to work harder and better for increased pay. It's all based on time in the classroom teaching or in the classroom at the University. "Competent" individuals recognize when there are inadequate or missing resources to develop or complete a project. If you were consulting for a software company and the user community continually told you your product stinks, while refusing to cooperate in needs studies; and the project managers stayed home and refused to attend meetings or work with schedules or encourage the developers and engineers to there part how what would you predict for the outcome? If the organization refused to make any changes because it might jeopardize their government contract, would you want to stay with this organization or go to one that is serious about structuring resources to effectively accomplish company goals and getting the best possible result for the user community. This is not a perfect parallel but I think it illustrates our situation. "Competent" teachers, are quickly frustrated with a system that only changes the labeling of the jargon thrown around to pacify the public. There is no real opportunity for competent people to accomplish educational goals in an unchangeable system. No real changes have been successfully implemented into the public schools since the start of the industrial revolution. We are still seeing an assembly line approach as the basis of the whole system. "Competent" professionals can go work elsewhere and accomplish amazing things for decent pay. People who are afraid of change love the public school system for all its faults. It is secure employment for millions of employees in the largest organization in the country, where average workers never get demoted or dismissed on the basis of competency. Paying them more is not a cure all.