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Microcap & Penny Stocks : VLVT (was CSMA) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: RealTime who wrote (10092)	10/29/1998 6:01:00 PM
From: Jorge Garza	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 11708

looks to me like a mini-micro-screwjob that is a definite short, even at this level. It could go negative 10 or 20 due to pending liabilities - what a deal! HK et al has taken this stock from 2.7 to almost zero. Question is, where does he make out. Well, answer is, of course in the spinoffs. They are private now. Under the control of HK et al cronies. Never to be seen again. According to MM, you will get paper sometime this month. Ever heard anything similar before???????????????????? Ha! In the meantime, revenues flowing in and out of cronies pockets, boats, planes, offshore accounts, in prep for the big split. Those stocks will never trade, everyone will disappear and HK's hope is that he just rides off into the sunset. Another BB bites the dust and the shareholders dont have the money to pursue it. I've seen it happen at least a dozen times so far in 1998. Carbon Copy.

To: RealTime who wrote (10092)	10/29/1998 6:49:00 PM
From: PeterR1700	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

Real Time - "what exactly do I mean" by MM shedding light in dark areas? Unfortunately, I can't/won't get into great detail because it involves some of the people on the thread and allegations of "stuff" that I can't prove or disprove. Suffice it to say that my impression is that CSMA has had a very interesting path to get us here and I've been on a fairly long part of it. Sorry to be vague but I don't want to get caught in the middle of a pissing contest. Peter