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To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (75914)	10/30/1998 5:06:00 PM
From: jhg_in_kc	Respond to of 176387

Darrel, that is an excellent argument against the internet appliance and the all-seeing, all-storing Megaserver. I had not thought of the Pc vs the Internet Appliance in terms of privacy and independence issues. I think your points are very well taken. jhg

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (75914)	10/30/1998 5:52:00 PM
From: Dennis	Respond to of 176387

Darrell, I didn't know this report was three months old. As a relative newbie to Dell I hadn't heard of it. Thanks for the explanation. I agree, I would not want everything that is on my PC the responsibility of someone else . I guess the question would be ......would corporate America?? Sure sounds like a hackers dream. Peace

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (75914)	10/30/1998 6:06:00 PM
From: KM	Respond to of 176387

<<you get read. one of the top selling books in the 80s was written by an Indian with a title (if i recall) "The Coming Great Crash of 1989". >>That guy has a new book out you know about the "Stock Market Crash of 1999" I saw it in the grocery store today, might be useful for wrapping fish or something <G> Have a good weekend.

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (75914)	10/30/1998 6:24:00 PM
From: FR1	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

their view that the PC will become only an extension of the internet, and be a cheap extension at that smacks against a sociological phenomena called ... I really kind of agree with you on this but just for fun I will take the other side. Consider this: (1) Suppose you are sitting at your terminal, on your businesses LAN, and you are entering orders. (2) Your sensitive information is not stored locally but over the LAN to a server which may or may not be in your building. (3) The Internet is a LAN. (4) Broadband Internet access is at hand. (5) There are storage businesses offering to back you up over the Internet. (6) Coming soon, I am sure, are businesses that offer high powered business programs that you can rent and run over the Internet. You will be allowed to make your own local copies and backups, but all the work of keeping up the system, having the latest payroll package, etc will be their headache. (7) You may say you don't trust them. This might be like the person that never rides in a airplane because you just can't trust them things (Look! I saw a crash in yesterday's paper). Every day I modem in my credit card deposits and trust the bank to process it correctly. (8) If you insist on doing everything, economy of scale will kill you in the end. They have a whole room full of experts keeping your system up for peanuts - compared to the business that kills itself trying to be a jack-of-all-trades (and what happens when the MIS director quits?). You know who is going to have the lowest overhead and be the long term winner. Mainframes ubber alles! - oops, strike that one out. (ggg) So, there is a argument for jobbing out the drudgery of everyday computer work. Of course, trust and verify is the rule. Your turn........ Franz

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (75914)	10/30/1998 11:18:00 PM
From: zurdo	Respond to of 176387

Darrell, I hate to date myself, but I come from the era of mainframe computers. I started in 1958 as a computer programmer on the IBM 705 (Smithsonian Museum material) and was active as an executive throughout the main era of mainframes and centralized computing environments...I heartily agree with your reply to Dennis...Why in the world would any one want to go back to that miserable era??? Everybody was a slave to the great God, IBM...Talk about monopolies!!! It makes Bill Gates empire look like a lemonade stand...The Brooks Bill finally put an end to IBM's death grip on the entire computer industry...I suppose Lou Gertsner is trying to recapture IBM's past glory days...It will never happen for the reasons you so aptly stated to Dennis..