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To: Glenn D. Rudolph who wrote (23960)10/30/1998 7:42:00 PM
From: llamaphlegm  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
<<<<Hint #1 should have been when I realised that I no longer browse bookstores on
saturday morning. Now, when i hear of an interesting book, I write it down. When I
have up to 3 books, I order them en-masse from AMZN. I also order some CDs in the
same package. Cuts down on shipping and saves me from going to 'The Wiz' (btw that's
why N2K and CDNow are toast.)
Hint #2 was when I abandoned the portfolio tracking on AOL for YHOO.
(I can access YHOO at work!)
Hint #3 was when I junked the proprietary software from my on-line broker in favour of
my browser.
(I dont trade at work though ;-))
Hint #4 was when my I could pay my bills via my browser at work. Previously, I had to
use my bank's proprietary software to pay my bills. Now, I have deleted that software
from my hard disk, thus freeing up a few MEGABYTES of disk space! hallelujah
Hint #5 and MOST TELLING hint was when Wal-mart sued AMZN. Why waste
time suing AMZN if they are not feeling threatened?
Hey, maybe AMZN can save me the bother of going to Costco once a month :-))

--Olu E.>>>>>

Hint #6 was when you correctly ascribed ALL of YOUR habits to the entire human race (whether literate or not, whatever their socioeconomic status, whether they own pcs, or have an isp, or use the internet for anything other than email, or have ever bought anything on line, or whether they will be repeat customers on line, or have even heard of amzn) and realized that they would all shop at amzn and only amzn forever.

william --

you are very testy for someone so bullish ... perchance you already sense the danger, the lack of conviction in this run up/squeeze, the lack of shocking new announcements (bfd, going into videos -- good for a quick 10 point burst at best, what else???, a stock split -- playing with fire) while millions of new shares become eligible to be sold, while ALL competitors, be they bks, borders, shop bots, walmart, aol, msn, yahoo (if you have not yet figured out that this is the competition, may i suggest a book by the name of Co-opetition, by Brandenburg and ______ ) while the lawsuit trucks on ... yes amzn has good brand name with the net crowd, yes it has enjoyed first mover advantage -- there is a flip side -- it enjoys the attention of every single one of its competitors and unfortunately has no competitive advantage (first mover, yes, sustainable competitive, no).

lp



To: Glenn D. Rudolph who wrote (23960)10/30/1998 9:23:00 PM
From: JBL  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
AMZN is a "feel-good" stock. It will go where the market is going, regardless of fundamentals.

The market goes-up, AMZN is called a blue chip. The market goes down, AMZN is called a tulip.

Analysts are continuously moving the bar so that AMZN can easily jump above it. Thus, deteriorating fundamentals will only be considered in the context of a weakening market.

IMO, people should spend very little time worrying about AMZN, and much more time worrying about where the Dow is headed. (I suggest you take a very close look at Japan for that.)






To: Glenn D. Rudolph who wrote (23960)11/1/1998 1:02:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
IPO FEES: COINCIDENCE--OR
COLLUSION?

Two academics question the standard 7% IPO fee

Collusion on Wall Street is not easily spotted. When academics William G.
Christie and Paul H. Schultz first figured out that NASDAQ market makers
rarely quoted stocks in increments of less than 25 cents, their 1994 treatise in
the Journal of Finance didn't definitively conclude that anything was amiss.
But the paper triggered lawsuits and a two-year federal investigation that
uncovered widespread collusion among brokers to fix prices on hundreds of
NASDAQ stocks. The result: dramatic reforms that lowered spreads and
saved investors more than $25 billion.

Will another academic study lead to similar upheaval in one of Wall Street's
most cherished businesses--the lucrative market in initial public offerings? In
an upcoming Journal of Finance article, two University of Florida academics
raise disturbing questions about the fees that investment banks charge to
take companies public. Their research shows that investment banks almost
invariably charged a flat rate of 7% of the per-share offering price in the vast
majority of IPOs over the last three years (chart). The fee is twice as high as
that charged by investment banks abroad.

ODD CLUSTERING. Coincidence, or another case of price-fixing? Professors
Jay R. Ritter and Hsuan-Chi Chen don't say. But they wonder why, in the
supposedly highly competitive investment-banking market, no one competes
on price. ''I'm not sure this is a smoking gun, but regulators need to keep their
eyes and ears open for evidence of collusion'' among big Wall Street firms,
Ritter says.

A Securities & Exchange Commission panel last reviewed IPO pricing in 1994
and spotted a similar pattern. ''Ritter's study raises a series of troubling
issues,'' says former SEC Commissioner Steven M.H. Wallman. ''The
clustering around the 7% spread seems very abnormal. There are possible
innocent explanations, but there are also possible nefarious ones.'' John E.
Fitzgibbon, editor of the IPO Reporter newsletter, says it's an ''oligopoly.'' In
recent years, IPO volume has averaged $40 billion per year. If fees were on
average 1% too high, that would mean excess banking fees of $400 million a
year, Ritter calculates.

Antitrust officials, though, have had little interest in the issue. The reason: No
one has come forward to complain that the cost of going public is too high,
Wallman says. For companies that want to go public, banker's fees are low on
their list of concerns. Much more important is how much money their bankers
can raise in an IPO and how strongly they can push it with investors.

But since the 1994 study, pricing has become even more uniform, Ritter says.
Between 1992 and 1994, for example, only about half of all IPOs had 7%
fees, according to Wallman. But in the last three years investment bankers
charged precisely 7% about 75% of the time. The fee clustering recently
prompted the National Association of Securities Dealers to warn underwriters
not to collude on pricing.

On Wall Street, the 7% fee, or ''spread'' in Street parlance, ''is viewed as the
last bastion of the old, clubby, cigar-smoking world of investment banking,''
says Andrew D. Klein, founder of Wit Capital Corp. in New York, an
investment banking boutique that sells IPOs over the Net. With margins on
brokerage and other fees shrinking, IPO fees are crucial sources of profits.
''Out of mutual self-interest, most bankers have lived by a
not-needed-to-discuss code that they wouldn't cut spreads,'' Klein says.

HAGGLE-PROOF. Investment bankers and IPO lawyers say there are
numerous reasons why banks maintain the 7% spread. Most important, says
John J. Egan III, an IPO attorney at Goodwin Procter & Hoar in Boston, a
standard fee makes it easier for investment banks to work together in
syndicates, since it eliminates haggling over the division of fees. Few
companies going public question the fee because ''it's much more important
to have a harmonious offering, and for syndicates to work harmoniously you
have to have a standard set of fees,'' Egan says.

It may not be obvious there's a problem that needs to be fixed. Still, investors
bought NASDAQ stocks at unfair prices for decades until a couple of
academics pushed regulators into giving the matter a look. The Ritter-Chen
study may provide the ammunition for a similar review.