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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (14177)	10/31/1998 3:22:00 AM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Uh oh.. Re Moloch: Things it makes me think of. Does each bomb, each land mine, worship the same? Children died in flames in London, Dresden, Stalingrad, Tokyo. Aren't men, those expected to die, children too? Do we all deserve it, or none. So who cares if children are burned in sacrifice. It's just a difference in ages. And if we believe in an afterlife, a god, why would we do these things? It's explainable, for people who believe god is a devil. But still pathetic. Why is our life so important? So famine comes. Who cares? Who are we to need life so much to kill for it? Why would life then be valuable to us? Why is it so important to survive? For what? There is honor in death. In starvation. In an inability to meet the conditions demanded if they include the damage of self or others. We did not set these conditions. And we do not set the forces against us. If it is inherent in us not to do these things, it does not matter to us that these consequences may befall us. It's just the way we are. People sacrifice their own lives, willingly; why insist on the sacrifice of other lives? I am not sure that I think this way. But I write it. So I want to do something else, or nothing at all. What is the consequence we are afraid of? This is not our field, our field of consequences. What penalty will we engage for refusing it? At worst we will disappear. And really, so what.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (14177)	10/31/1998 7:55:00 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

Worshipped as a sun god, Moloch embodied the savage and devastating aspects of the sun's heat. Moloch is alive and well and spent the summer with us in Texas. Had anyone realized he could be appeased by the sacrifice of a few humans, it would have been arranged. Governor Bush would probably have incorporated it into a Rangers' ballgame. The victim could throw out the first pitch, and then the sacrifice could take place instead of the Dot Race. Well, maybe not, people take the Dot Race pretty seriously. Maybe during the seventh inning stretch- the organ could replace Take Me Out to the Ballgame with something more appropriate--like "I'd Do Anything for You" from Oliver or "It's Too Damn Hot" from Kiss Me, Kate. As for sacrificial victims, you leave yourself wide open for lawsuits, Freddy. That kind of discrimination just won't make it. Besides the pool is so limited nowadays. Make it a contest. Maybe AA would sponser a trip to Europe for the bereaved family. Or some Dallas Cowboy's car dealership could donate a cool sports vehicle. I think Gaughie must be referring to your favorite thinker, Joseph Campbell, regarding new rituals. You must stay open for these opportunities to revive and make accessible the old ways to our times. Bring meaning back to our empty existence.