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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (17478)	10/31/1998 1:52:00 PM
From: SKIP PAUL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Both India and China with their 2 billion people are breaking for GSM In the case of India that is not factual. While the operators in the major cities are GSM (because they predated CDMAone) these operators are doing very poorly because of the high tariffs required with GSM systems. In fact CDMA based WLL subscribers will outnumber GSM subscribers next year and chances are that competitive mobile CDMA operators are going to spring up in most cities early next year. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT GSM IS SIMPLY NOT ECONOMICAL COMPARED TO CDMA AND WILL BE GRADUALLY REPLACED. That is a hard fact for you to accept but that is simply how markets work.

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (17478)	10/31/1998 2:07:00 PM
From: SKIP PAUL	Respond to of 152472

To All: Saturday October 31, 12:58 pm Eastern Time Mexico accuses ex-Ericsson employees of corruption MEXICO CITY, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Mexico City prosecutors have accused two former employees of Swedish telecommunications firm Ericsson , as well as 17 city officials, of corruption in the award of a contract, newspapers reported on Saturday. Uno mas Uno newspaper said the city's attorney general's office had found evidence of ''irregularities'' with regard to its own internal, $28 million communications system, adding no tender was held to decide who to buy the system from in 1996. Prosecutor Victor Carranca Bouquet told Uno mas Uno and other newspapers that arrest warrants were issued for the former Ericsson employees and the officials from the attorney general's office earlier this week. Awarding contracts without tenders is a crime in Mexico.

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (17478)	10/31/1998 5:33:00 PM
From: quartersawyer	Respond to of 152472

As a newcomer and a relative ignoramus I feel eminently qualified to respond here. No absolute need for big guns, though they'll be along in time . Your assertions of "obfuscation and denial" on the part of CDMA proponents is easily reversible, point by your point: * The "late 80's" (early nineties?) work by a few nordic engineers naturally curious and assigned the task of studying competing proposals as the germ of all expertise on CDMA is obfuscation of the development of the technology. The "standardization ignored by Qualcomm" defined by the number of current users of GSM obfuscates the genuine attempt by Q to standardize 3G. W-CDMA choice as "victory" for GSM purveyors, because it was worked on for 10 years proven by conversations with a fellow with five years experience, and persuasion of ETSI by the controlling voters, therefore CDMA only "somehow" has anything to do with Qualcomm... a whole onion of obfuscations. Nortel, Hitachi, Toshiba, Nokia, Ericcson developing (buying into) W-CDMA undoubtedly with key specs easily convertible within the high probabability of eventual convergence obfuscates the existing gray areas by imposing a false hard demarcation within an undecided issue. Who implied anything? There was a only a singular, clear request that you display at least a little technical knowledge to back your righteous insistence A party line rehash glued and screwed to arched eyebrow indignation obfuscates the technicals not forthcoming. Etc., etc. and absurd. Have you ever read George Orwell and, who was it.. William Golding? Don't these point blank reversals of reality, these "victories" and "glorious successes" remind you of the unshakeable pure lies, and the strident painted boys ranting in their worship of a pig head? Silly at first, but very nasty after a while. Bruce Nadelson