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To: Crossy who wrote (40560)	11/1/1998 3:17:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576619

Re: "You may be right. (I don't know whether I should trust You more or TOM/ANAND) but the fact remains the same. INTC current presence in the high-.end server market is rather weak. " He is right. tpc.org You might like to have a look at this website. It has lots of benchmarks for SMP systems including the best price/performance. This list has the top 10. It's not supposed to be an Intel only rating, it's just that Intel captures 10 out of the top 10 spots. Nobody else is even close. tpc.org The top rated system, a Compaq Proliant sells for $384,000. It has 4 Xeon processors. At $2500 a piece, the Xeon hardly has any affect on system cost. Even if Intel charged $5000 for a Xeon it would still have the best price/performance in the industry by a wide margin. The top rated system for performance is an 8-way Alpha at $14 million giving it about 5x the performance of an Intel system for about 23x the price. Where do you think the future lies? EP

To: Crossy who wrote (40560)	11/1/1998 8:05:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576619

<You may be right. (I don't know whether I should trust You more or TOM/ANAND) but the fact remains the same. INTC current presence in the high-.end server market is rather weak. Ask CPQ/DEC regarding scalability. One DEC engineer lamented on the fact that the ALPHA got a 20+ SMP limit right now. See what I mean ? Not attacking the RISC camp in the high-margin server business but eventually getting attacked there by AMD (and maybe others)> Sorry if I seemed a little peeved before. It's not you, it's me. I get into these weird moods every now and then. Anyway, more often than not you can trust Tom and Anand over me. The only problem is that they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to servers. Their domain is the desktop systems built by us eggheads who don't mind overclocking in order to get a few more FPS out of Unreal. When it comes down to servers, or even the nitty-gritty over CPU architecture, their knowledge falls short. Witness how Tom was even struggling to understand the new K7 features in his preview. Plus, Tom's opinions, like anyone else's, should be taken with a grain of salt. Remember that Tom once predicted that the K6 will be faster than the Pentium II clock-for-clock. That was a year and a half ago, and this prediction has yet to come true (it might when the K6-3 finally ships, but only on Windows 95/98). Tenchusatsu