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To: keithsha who wrote (24162)	11/2/1998 4:35:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

Novell Awarded Over $26 Million in Infringement Case Award is Largest of Its Kind Ever Granted biz.yahoo.com

To: keithsha who wrote (24162)	11/2/1998 4:36:00 PM
From: Spartex	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

<<Novell makes such a lousy database (NDS) they can't even protect schemas across versions upgrades. LOL!!! Novell, the database company. >> Gosh, and to think I thought NDS = Novell Directory Services, rather than "database". I guess we're in competition with ORCL, IFMX, SYBS, and others as well as Mr. Softie here.

To: keithsha who wrote (24162)	11/2/1998 5:28:00 PM
From: EPS	Respond to of 42771

PC Week Labs recommends PC Week Labs obtained the NetWare patch from Novell's support site. The patch does not fix the problem once it occurs but can prevent it by loading an updated version of DS.NLM. Any administrator planning to create a hybrid Netware 4.x/5.0 network should apply the patch to legacy 4.x servers before adding NetWare 5.0. You know you already have a problem if objects in the NWADMIN utility turn into yellow question marks. If this occurs, call Novell tech support, which will send a personalized patch that will repair the lost schema information. The personalized patch can be applied without downing a server. Novell said it will take anywhere from 1 hour to one day to complete the personalized patch. BTW, "The problem with this stuff for Microsoft is the cumulative nature," said Herb Hovenkamp, an antitrust-law expert at the University of Iowa. techstocks.com I've never used Explorer or even witnessed anyone using it. Even though I "deleted" Explorer from Windows95 it still causes errors and crashes. I'd switch Internet Service Providers. The only Microsoft product I like is Excel. FrontPage is OK so far. Message 6219877

To: keithsha who wrote (24162)	11/2/1998 5:35:00 PM
From: EPS	Respond to of 42771

Bill Gates denies knowing very much Suggests he was out of loop on Netscape, Apple By Rex Nutting, CBS MarketWatch Last Update: 5:21 PM ET Nov 2, 1998 NewsWatch WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates denied knowing much about his company's dealings with Netscape Communications or Apple Computer in videotaped testimony played in federal court Monday. Gates displayed little knowledge of the key events in the antitrust trial that entered its third week in U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's court. Lead government counsel David Boies played short excerpts from the Gates tape and then showed the court contemporaneous e-mails from Microsoft (MSFT) executives that the government believes contradict Gates' testimony. Microsoft said the showing of the videotaped deposition proves that the government's case was becoming "an unfair personal attack on Bill Gates." Microsoft chose some of the excerpts shown Monday as a way of putting Gates' words into context. Whether Gates' testimony is damaging legally, it threatens to become a public relations disaster for the software giant. Gates, well known for his brilliant business mind and attention to detail, comes across in his videotape as forgetful and out-of-the-loop. In his e-mail messages, by contrast, Gates appears focused, confident and well-informed. Gates frequently answered questions with "I don't know" or "I'm not sure." He battled his questioners at every turn. The government, which plans to show six to eight hours of the Gates deposition, played about 108 minutes of it so far. In their landmark lawsuit, the government and 20 states charge Microsoft with intimidating its rivals and using its market power to extend its monopoly over personal computer operating system software onto the Internet. Of the clips played Monday, the most devastating testimony to Microsoft's defense came from Gates' denials and contorted explanations of internal email about the company's negotiations with Apple (AAPL). Gates clung to his explanation that his key goals for "investing in the Apple relationship" were not the same as his goals for a "deal" with Apple. Gates explained that "investing the relationship" meant the time he spent with Gil Amelio, who was Apple's chairman at that time. It did not mean the proposal Gates mentioned later in the same memo that tied Microsoft's continued development of software for the Mac with Apple's embrace of Microsoft's Internet browser. The government is charging that Microsoft tried to kill the threat posed by Netscape (NSCP) by threatening companies that did business with Netscape and rewarding those who didn't. Because of its monopoly power, Microsoft's threats were effective, the government says. In the videotape, Gates denied that Microsoft had threatened Apple with pulling the plug on further development of Mac Office 97, a popular Microsoft business software suite that runs on Apple's Macintosh computers, if Apple did not endorse Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser. Gates said he didn't know what an underling meant when he said Mac Office was the "perfect club" to use on Apple against Netscape. Gates said he couldn't say whether Apple believed canceling Mac Office would do a "great deal of harm" to Apple as another Microsoft executive suggested. The wording of the agreement between Microsoft and Apple specifically conditions Apple's endorsement of the Microsoft browser on Microsoft's continued development and sales of Mac Office, according to the contract introduced by the government into evidence. Boies also showed a short portion of the Gates deposition on a key June 21, 1995, meeting with Netscape Communications. Boies had shown part of that exchange as part of his opening argument two weeks ago. In that testimony, Gates said he had "no sense of what Netscape was doing" at the time. The government has introduced as evidence several internal Microsoft emails showing that Gates was heavily involved in the planning and strategizing for the meeting and to meet Netscape's challenge. A senior Apple executive was scheduled to take the stand Monday morning as the government's third witness, but arguments over the Gates videotape and over the admissibility of the testimony of Senior Vice President Avadis Tevanian took up the whole morning session. The Gates tapes took up the afternoon session. The court is in recess Tuesday for election day. On Wednesday, Tevanian will take the stand. According to his direct testimony released on Friday, Tevanian will testify that Microsoft tried to bully Apple into dividing the market for multimedia software by threatening to stop selling its Mac Office.

To: keithsha who wrote (24162)	11/2/1998 11:35:00 PM
From: David O'Berry	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

It amazes me that an employee of a company that puts out such bullshit bloatware would question a viable distributed, hierarchical database put out by a company that has always technologically whipped the pants off of MSFT. MSFT can barely keep its own enterprise running with this junk and yet you guys/gals continue to put it out as the second coming. I for one am sick of the hostage situation and will at every opportunity use anything but MSFT's products. At this point it is simply principle. BTW, MSFT refuses to admit to problems like this and simply throws them in as "added features". HA. "BORG, WE WILL ASSIMILATE". HA. Forget it. It will be over my dead Sniffer! Sorry if I offended anyone but this chump, David O'Berry doberry@mindspring.com