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To: Kid Rock who wrote (21544)	11/3/1998 9:50:00 AM
From: John S.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hello Thomas, God is not deceitful as you said, but Satan is, and the bible says he is a liar and the father of it. Shalom is accurate in how Satan can appear as we have more than one description of him found in scripture. There are two sides to this creature... II Corinthians 11 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. again in Ezekiel 28... 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.... 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Isaiah 14 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Satan's true visage as a fallen angel is described in Job 40 as Leviathan, the dragon, the evil image that people consider the devil to be like and worse. However he is capable of disguising his appearance supported in the verses in Corinthians. Deceitfulness is Satan's weapon of advantage and you can catch more flies with honey. People are drawn by his deceits and false promises and appearances. It isn't difficult to recognize his hand at play in every avenue from schools to churches to correspondences on these threads. He needn't wear horns and a tail... he could be the minister at the pulpit preaching another gospel other than salvation by grace through Jesus Christ. In Christ, John

To: Kid Rock who wrote (21544)	11/3/1998 3:06:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>...I see that John has already answered this for you...><> But I would like to know where did you ever get the idea that any post of mine or any other Christian, in where it was even implied...God forbid... That God was evil and deceitful?, as you said, My God is not a God of conspiracy, deceit, and evil. That statement just baffles me, no doubt Thomas.... As John pointed out to you, especially in Ez.28, satan was one of God's most perfect angels. he was the anointed cherub,hand picked by God to guard the mercy seat. Do you really believe that God created satan in the image which he is portrayed by the world? Not a chance.! The image that is presented to us of satan was created by hollywood. And so I say again, when satan appears to this world, and sits in the seat of God, saying he is God,and exaltheth himself above all that is called God and showing himself that he is God,.....he will appear to be God....he will come disguised as Jesus, and no marvel!! Check it out Thomas...Transformed strongs# 3345 from 3326 = disguised Very dark reality Thomas? O what a dark day for those who are blinded by deceit....Nothing personal Thomas, just a general statement which applies to those who will be deceived. In the Love of Christ Shalom...><>