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Non-Tech : DATEK- COME LOSE YOUR MONEY -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: D. Chapman who wrote (1)	11/4/1998 11:25:00 AM
From: GT	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 38

Datek is a scam - they are front running our morning orders for their own gains imo. If your stock gaps at the open (which they often do) - you can't get out of your position !!!!!!!!!!!How the hell can we survive that !!!!!!!! I'm gone except for the complaints to the S.E.C. and a possible class action lawsuit.

To: D. Chapman who wrote (1)	11/6/1998 4:59:00 PM
From: Ove Hansen	Respond to of 38

> Datek is open from 11:00 am to 3:30 PM. If you remember this >simple rule, you will do well Yeah - I tried for fun to enter a rather small sell order (just experimenting with day trading) towards close but got timed out from a couple of servers which didn't respond. I then managed to get through to orders15 which had worked impeccably earlier in the day, however now I just got a spinning hour glass. Then I tried to place the same order on orders7 (which I also knew worked well earlier), and stared again for a looong time at the hour glass. Result - one "not confirmed" order at 16:00:09, and one open order at 16:00:15. Did Datek die around 15:50 and spring back to life just seconds after close? I tried to open an account with ETrade today - this morning I got through to the first web form, but after submitting it it just timed out on me. Submitting it again didn't work - "username already taken". So I tried a slightly different one. Same result, and same reply when re-submitting it. Obviously the data managed to get from the form into ETrade's database but the server didn't come back with any confirmation ;-( Sooo... I tried again this evening and noticed that I could link the account to an existing username. Cool, I tried the one I had used the first time. Worked like a treat! Except for the Javascript which screws up anyone who isn't from the US, and a form which insists that one has to enter a US State - even when one doesn't live in the US (why the hell do so many yank sites get that one wrong - I have stopped counting the number of times I've been forced to go back on a form to enter a state even though I quite clearly didn't choose "United States" in the list of countries - aaargh!) And, except for the "funds transfer" form where I couldn't just transfer 10,000 bucks from Datek: no, it insisted that I enter a stock, I tried "1 CSCO" and that part was fine. Except now I was stuck as I couldn't get around the part where it insisted on my social security number. I HAVEN'T GOT ONE DAMMIT - I'M NOT FROM THE US!!! The latter was specified in two or three places as I clicked my way through the forms - aaargh again!!! So, I sent ETrade an e-mail, requesting all forms by snail-mail, screw technology... Maybe I should open a thread "how to survive the stress of opening an ETrade account" ;-) ... One day I might actually have an ETrade account and it will be fun to compare how well trading* works.