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To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (22585)11/4/1998 9:32:00 PM
From: Giraffe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116756
 
>>our two governments can only come up with 7 million between us to help these poor souls .... another indication of the decay our world is undergoing.<<

Couldn't agree with you more. North America's emergency aid so far has been embarrassing. Nothing more than a token gesture.



To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (22585)11/5/1998 12:59:00 AM
From: RagTimeBand  Respond to of 116756
 
MB

>>another indication of the decay our world is undergoing.
A sad day for all of us<<

It appears that the slime-balls have won.

Emory



To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (22585)11/5/1998 6:08:00 AM
From: Alex  Respond to of 116756
 
How The Prudent Bear Manges To Make Money

PAUL KANGAS: Despite the market's strength in recent weeks, stock prices could go into reverse at any time. And one mutual fund that's designed to make money when that happens is the Prudent Bear Fund. During the third quarter, Prudent Bear was the top performer among virtually all mutual funds with a return of almost 22 percent. But the market's rebound during the past few weeks hurt the fund's performance. And for the year through October, it was down almost 16 percent. Prudent Bear is managed by David Tice who joins us now from our New York studio. And David, welcome to NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT.

DAVID TICE, PORTFOLIO MANAGER, PRUDENT BEAR FUND: Thank you, Paul.

KANGAS: What would it take to repeat your third quarter performance? And do you expect that to happen anytime soon?

TICE: Well really Paul, if we just had a 10 to 15 percent decline in the Dow, we think we will be able to replicate that performance. And yes, we believe that the Dow will end up 1998 below 7000.

KANGAS: Why?

TICE: We believe that this economy has been the beneficiary of a credit bubble. And unfortunately we're in the midst of a credit crunch now.

KANGAS: All right. OK, so you are still very, this is, in other words, a bear market rally that we've been seeing. That's what you feel it is.

TICE: Yes. This has been a great bear market rally but not really outside the confines of typical bear market rallies.

KANGAS: Well just how bearish are you in terms of the Dow? Here we are at 8700. How far down do you think it could go?

TICE: We really feel as if this market could decline below 4000, Paul, by next year.

KANGAS: 4000!

TICE: Yes. That's a long way down. But this market is now selling at 50 percent higher than any market in history. And unfortunately, the global economy has been labeled as the worst in 50 years.

KANGAS: You know, obviously, your fund is designed to act inversely to broad measures of market performance. Like the Standard & Poor's 500. But how do you achieve the results? Do you short the indexes or individual stocks or what?

TICE: No. We are currently short about 100 common stocks that we do extensive fundamental research on that we have had a background of doing for the last 11 years.

KANGAS: OK. Now, as we've noted, the Prudent Bear's performance can have some wild swings.

TICE: Yes.

KANGAS: Should investors put their money into the fund only if they're extremely bearish? Or can it also be used as a kind of an insurance policy against some kind of a market drop?

TICE: That's a great point, Paul. A small part of one's fund could be used, in a fund like the Prudent Bear Fund, if the market declines, we will make a great deal of money. If the market continues to go up, it's simply an opportunity cost of not being more fully invested.

KANGAS: Do you use, other than just short positions in stocks, do you use derivatives or for instance, put options?

TICE: We use straightforward put options, Paul, to a limited degree. But other than that, it's mostly straight short sales.

KANGAS: OK. And so you are just, 4000 on the Dow, in what time frame?

TICE: I'd say over the next 18 months.

KANGAS: And the major negative will be?

TICE: The major negative will be: this credit cycle has ended. The speculation will run its course.

KANGAS: OK.

TICE: Corporate earnings will go lower.

KANGAS: Thanks very much, David.

TICE: Thank you.

KANGAS: My guest, David Tice, portfolio manager of the Prudent Bear Fund.

Nightly Business Report transcripts are available on-line post-broadcast. The program is transcribed by FDCH. Updates may be posted at a later date.

The views of our guests and commentators are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Community Television Foundation of South Florida, Inc. Nightly Business Report, or WPBT.



To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (22585)11/5/1998 8:10:00 AM
From: Paxb2u  Respond to of 116756
 
Mark,

Isn't that the truth.

Peter



To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (22585)11/6/1998 1:19:00 AM
From: Alex  Respond to of 116756
 
Transparent hype
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The Group of Seven's statement on reforming the global financial system was long on waffle and short on substance <Picture>

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EVEN by the standards of Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, those masters of portentous vacuity, the joint statement of the G7 governments last weekend was impressive. Their statement was billed, and faithfully reported by the world's press, as no less than a plan for a “strengthened financial architecture for the global marketplace of the next millennium”. Discounting at the usual rate, something of substance was still to be expected, because this was after all an out-of-schedule announcement: why bother with such a thing if you have nothing to say? What innocence, with an American election in the offing, to ask that question.
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The statement was not a list of actions but yet another version of the agenda for ponderous deliberation that governments have been wheeling out since the peso crisis of 1995, if not before. A central theme in this endlessly recirculated list of talking-points, oddly enough, is the need for greater disclosure and “transparency”. A transparent rendering of this statement would read, in full, as follows: “We still haven't quite worked out what to do.”
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The only partial exception was the announcement of an intended new lending facility at the IMF—“partial” because one or two details (how much money it will include, where the money will come from, which governments might qualify, how it will be run, and so on) still remain to be worked out. This American idea was first sprung on the IMF during its annual meetings in Washington last month. Officials at the Fund are still very vague about it. One urgent question is whether this facility would be available to Brazil. American officials said it could be—but then again it might not be.
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Does the idea make sense in principle, at least? At first sight, it seems plausible. One of the problems with the present arrangements is that money from the Fund is often too little and too late to save the would-be borrower from an economic crisis. America's idea is that a big pot of cash, ready at short notice to be tapped by governments that have good policies and which have pre-qualified for access to it, may be enough to calm the markets and avoid capital flight. In the best case, the reserve would never in fact be drawn down; its mere existence would suffice.
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But this is surely wishful thinking. Countries will get into financial difficulties and seek help from the IMF, through one facility or another. Access to this new rapid-deployment cash will often be requested (even if, as suggested, the new facility charges more for its loans than other Fund programmes). The question then will be, is the country in question allowed to borrow? But what will be the criteria? Will the Fund maintain a public list of countries that have pre-qualified? That would be the transparent thing to do. But one foresees difficulties. What if the IMF takes a country off its pre-approved list, thereby precipitating capital flight—and obliging the country to seek assistance through one of the Fund's other facilities? That would never do. Better to keep the list private? So much for transparency.
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And whatever became of moral hazard? The central question in putting global finance to rights is how to strike the balance between, on the one hand, coping with financial distress once it has started and, on the other, improving incentives so that lenders and borrowers do not get into trouble in the first place. The G7 says very little about this. The new facility may worsen moral hazard, tempting lenders to take greater risks, unless the pre-qualification tests are demanding. On top of all this, the suspicion arises that political discretion (otherwise known as “American leadership”) will play an even bigger role in the operation of this new facility than in the Fund's other programmes. Again, this militates against transparency and better incentives.
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Half-baked ideas for new Fund programmes are not as helpful as would be concrete, albeit more modest-seeming, measures to help financial markets work better. A variety of ideas on this were put forward after the peso crisis; the same ideas are little further advanced three years on, and the G7 promises only to carry on discussing them.
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For example, notwithstanding the risk of frightening the markets with scary facts, the IMF should be more open about its views of countries' policies and prospects. This could be done right now. Everybody claims to agree in theory—but progress has been slow. The Fund is publishing more than before, but still keeps the most sensitive parts of its appraisals of countries' policies under wraps. What does the G7 have to say about that? “The IMF should adopt a presumption in favour of release of information, except where this might compromise confidentiality.” Orwell would have loved that.
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Another area where reform is still moving too slowly is in improving prudential and supervisory standards in banking. More than a year ago, for instance, countries adopted the voluntary “core principles” of the Basle standards on bank capital—but not all agreed to implement them, or even to set a date for it. The G7 should be pressing for countries that do not yet comply to set a date (even if, as in the case of many developing countries, it will be a long way off). Progress should then be monitored by the IMF. Failure to set a date, or to move briskly in the right direction, should be punished by denial of access to IMF money.
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There were disturbing signs of complacency, as well, in the G7's statement. It began with a list of all the fine things that governments had already done to contain the crisis (Japan's decisive steps to solve its banking problems, and so on), as if to imply that the world economy had turned the corner. If it has, it is no thanks to what governments (least of all Japan's) have done so far. Things are still likely to get worse before they get better. If governments would like to prevent that, they had better understand that actions speak louder than words.

economist.com