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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mrknowitall who wrote (13044)	11/5/1998 12:03:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 67261

From your message I was responding to: You're assuming the other pending investigations aren't going to find anything. It's hard for a leopard to change his spots; liars don't just all of a sudden stop lying, nor can they always be effective at reaching back to hide or make alterations to evidence or to intimidate witnesses. Would be any smear or innuendo there, would there be, Mr. K.? No, only substance and facts. So what are "new investigations" going to turn up, Mr. K.? You of the "substantial debate" faction? Which of the regurgitation litany do you see going someplace? More news for you, Mr. K, from nytimes.com With attention now shifting to the House Judiciary Committee and its impeachment inquiry into Clinton, Representative Henry J. Hyde of Illinois told fellow Republicans on the panel in a conference call yesterday that the only witness Republicans were likely to call was the independent counsel, Kenneth W. Starr. There were reports last night that Hyde might call another witness, an expert on the meaning of testifying under oath to help the committee in deciding whether Clinton committed perjury. Bummer, Mr. K. Seems like there are some insane people out there who just aren't up for new investigations at the moment. Just two weeks ago, Gingrich had foreseen election gains of 10 seats to more than 40. Seeming uncertain yesterday, he said he had trouble accounting for the results. "Things were happening out there that none of us fully understand -- neither party in my judgment," Gingrich said. Taking his share of the blame for his party's losses, the Georgia Republican said he had misjudged how the public would recoil from the Clinton scandal and how the scandal would drown out other Republican themes. "I mean I totally underestimated the degree to which people would just get sick of 24-hour-a-day talk television and talk radio and then the degree to which this whole scandal became just sort of disgusting by sheer repetition," Gingrich said. Sheer repetition of every charge ever made always goes down well here, though, doesn't it. "And as a result, I think we probably underestimated the need to really aggressively push a much stronger message about cutting taxes and saving Social Security, winning the war on drugs, reforming education and national defense." Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi, the majority leader, also acknowledged mistakes, saying his party had not had a clear enough message in the final 96 hours of the campaign. Lott conceded that Congress's scramble to pass a $500 billion budget hurt the Republicans. "One of the lessons for Republicans out of this is that we need to listen more carefully to the people and we need to have a clear understanding and concise message that we do apply across the nation," he said in Washington. I think the message here was always clear and concise, Mr. K. Clinton, the root of all evil. You still seem to find it quite a compelling message, but others seem to be ready to move on. Back to your original message: A few months from now, after the glow of the supposed victory has faded, the hangover headache of a morally bankrupt "leader" of the free world is going to make Democratic leaders come to a hard choice - continue to support him (economically) or push the funds into trying to keep the White House a Democratic institution for Gore. If they abandon Gore and go for saving their own skins, recovering the control of the House and Senate, old Al will drift in the wind. What funds would we be talking about there, Mr. K.? Clinton has been using Democratic campaign funds to pay off the media? I think it's all a bunch of drivel, mrknowitall. I think you're in denial.