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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (35376)11/6/1998 4:38:00 AM
From: accountclosed  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
But Skeets, if the guy is interested in the business of an options market maker/member of the floor crowd...There is a whole world here. For a stock market maker or specialist, the product is relatively simple, stock. An inventory item. Most of the game is living off the bid/ask spread. But for an options trader, the inventory is not quite so simple. Different strike prices, different expirations, etc. A lot of effort is dedicated to remaining "flat" here too, but flat has a more complex definition. What I mean is it is basic options logic that a long call and a short put = synthetic stock, and a long put and a short call = synthetic short. Options traders have a lot of effort dedicated legging into market neutral positions by offsetting synthetic stock with real shorts and synthetic shorts with real stock. But that balance is dynamic as options decay/expire and stock/option positions need to be either rolled to cover new inventory or liquidated. Options inventories are constantly changing and net positions constantly need to be monitored. Also judgment comes in as to how much of the portfolio should be hedged as hedging is not free. Risk/return measurements are made constantly. Net long options is an enviable position, too. Net short options can be suicide as MB has pointed out. So going flat against a net long options position is essentially locking in profits, while going flat against a net short options position is also self-preservation.

The net position of a market maker and his crowd in part determines the prices they are willing to offer on the options being traded.
As an options customer, you may not care one whit about the complexity behind the scenes. It is just like walking into a store and asking what is the price and you decide to buy it or not; the supply problems are the domain of the merchant. But I think the origin of this line of questioning was a guy that wanted to know more about how options market makers worked.

A book that options crowd members that I know were required to read before starting work was Natenberg's Option Volatility and Pricing Strategy. (An options floor trader, or member of the crowd, is basically an extension of an options market maker. The market maker sets the pricing and gets first cut at trades and the crowd lives off his leftovers, deciding their level of participation in each trade in part by the status of their inventory.)



To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (35376)11/6/1998 4:45:00 AM
From: The Perfect Hedge  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Skeets-
Are you ready to load da put boat or what?Take your pick...mu,xlnx,nvls,ibm,amzn nd on and on....give then another 10% more on the upside though..you think?We're in one of those stages where it looks like these things are going to go up everyday forever but soon they'll get whacked and those ballsy individuals that bought puts when everyone was laughing at us will be smiling...

B*



To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (35376)11/6/1998 11:22:00 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 132070
 
Skeets, yes. For $79.95, I will sell you a copy of a supply and demand intersection illustrated by 400 pages of academic fluff and reasons why my model would have worked if the market was "normal." <G> Sometimes the floggers of B-S and other quant models remind me of "bad trip" handicappers at the track. "See, horse #4 would have won except he got boxed in and had to swing wide around 5 horses on the turn." No analysis of why he got boxed in (hint: he was too damned slow coming out of the gate) and why the same thing won't happen next time. <G>

MB