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To: i-node who wrote (1572)	11/11/1998 4:44:00 PM
From: TChai	Respond to of 5102

For example, you could have someone come along a develop a c++ or delphi that runs on a JVM. Poof! The end of Java. David, That's really wishful thinking. C++ programmers who don't want to get on the Java train will be able to program in C++ until they retire, just like the COBOL programmers of yesteryear. But the new rising star on the block is definitely Java, despite M$ attemp to sabotage it. The generation that is coming up will be well verse in Java. Instead of me rehashing what a lot of people already know, let's hear what the really big players have to say, complimentary of the M$ trial: Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates' widely publicized comment, "This scares the hell out of me," was a response to a Microsoft employee who went on a "think week" about Java in September of 1996, according to an unsealed e-mail. "Java has a competitive advantage in its simplicity of implementation precisely because it isn't language neutral," wrote Adam Bosworth. "They have brilliantly used the language to solve problems where we (C++) write lots of explicit code to what amounts to runtime plumbing code that's hard to write and hard to understand. Java Beans takes Java to a new level. We must acknowledge that Java competes with COM if we want to understand what to do about it." The documents show Gates driving employees to figure out what to do about Java, which he and other Microsoft executives saw as a serious threat to Windows. "Supporting JDK 1.1 is fine, but I am very hard core about not supporting JDK 1.2," Gates wrote to John Ludwig on May 14, 1997. "I really need to understand where we're going to draw the line because it's a slippery slope. If you think we should support the JDK 1.2 that's fine, but you will really have to explain why and where it stops." From McGeady testimony: cnnfn.com Java as Intel's "insurance" Meanwhile, Intel was building an "insurance policy" against its ally, secretly beginning work with one of Microsoft's "mortal enemies" to develop Java-based applications. "We should do the (Java) work quietly as an insurance policy and see a few more cards before any public disclosure," then-Intel Executive Vice President Frank Gill wrote in a message dated Nov. 9, 1995. "I interpreted our meeting today consistent with Frank's last paragraph," McGeady wrote regarding the e-mail. "We ... will begin the Java program full force, consistent with the direction to do so without public disclosure." Created by Sun Microsystems, Java is a programming language designed to function on any computer operating system, not just Microsoft's Windows products. Other government witnesses -- notably Apple Computer's Avadis Tevanian -- have said Microsoft viewed Java as a real threat to its software advantage, allegedly pressuring other companies to block Java's growth. After a November 1995 meeting with Microsoft, Gill said, "Java remains a major controversy. ... We told them that we felt Java is on the way to becoming an Internet (standard) and felt a need to ... particularly optimize our media components for the Java environment." However, Microsoft then told Gill that "they (Microsoft) see this as supporting their mortal enemy and argue Sun is our enemy as well." After the meeting, Intel began its Java program, in McGeady's words, "full force."