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To: Paul Senior who wrote (5237)11/6/1998 2:51:00 PM
From: Michael Burry  Respond to of 78530
 
I haven't gotten that bug. I bailed on the market just when it really started to take off. So now I see just about everything I wanted about twice when I first loaded up, and up about 30-50% from when I sold it all. Makes it hard to buy. But I did add to Midway today, doubling my position again. Of all the stocks that I follow, it's the only one I feel comfortable buying, since I know exactly why it is down, and it hasn't participated at all in this greater fool's run-up. Just about everything else even the Deswell's and NH's could easily retrace their gains in short order with any market downdraft, and stay there for a while. I feel this market is as risky as it's ever been.

Mike



To: Paul Senior who wrote (5237)11/8/1998 12:04:00 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78530
 
Does anyone have an opinion on MGIC (symbol: MTG).

Stock is up from its 1998 lows (what isn't?) but trading down quite bit from its high.

It has a pe of 13.

My tables on MGIC go back to 1992. Looks like every year there's been an increase in revenue and a corresponding 6 years of increasing earnings.

Isn't this a business that MGIC has pretty much either a lock on or dominates? And a business - insurance - that is required for most people who are buying homes?

I would think that MGIC would trade at a higher multiple than 13X. However, it traded on average roughly between 12-14 back in '92 through '93, according to my table. And its price to book (now about 2.9) was between 2.3-2.5 in '92-94. So maybe the stock isn't undervalued. But yet those earnings/revs are moving up... and so has the stock price - from under 10 in '92 to over 70 this year.

My questions would be: is this company fairly valued now or is it still too expensive- by a value investor's criteria? Or are we talking about a growth stock here? And if so, is it a reasonable buy now given past growth and based on criteria a growth investor would use? Or maybe it is a GARP stock? (I do not own this stock; if you were to buy it what would be your ruling reasons?) Paul