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To: O'Hara who wrote (21639)	11/6/1998 4:08:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Shalom; Their is no true definition of the Church. Everyone seems to belong to the true Church. Christianity has many denominations..........as well as other religions.............. My only interest is a personal relationship and I need not have to have a label. People are the Church and what you do against another human being you do against God. More money is poured into fancy buildings (churches)and robes than to help the ones in need if you think thats good than I am happy for you.................. That's what Sam was referring to............... I place more importance on the Bible and a personal relationship with God than some sort of church gathering. I have no problem with people going to a Church, but that does not make you a saint or right with God. Alan

To: O'Hara who wrote (21639)	11/6/1998 4:16:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

BTW Alan if you are going to argue with the enemies of God you had better do it with scripture or the enemy will win every time.!The word of God is our defense...anything else will always get us in trouble. ONLY the word of God! Otherwise the enemy will trap you evertime, with your own words! The enemy never wins Shalom. Get in trouble? Trap me................. Looks like you hold Gods power in low esteem he is not depending on me I am depending on him.................. Alan

To: O'Hara who wrote (21639)	11/6/1998 4:57:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier	Respond to of 39621

Shalom, The scriptures of themselves are nothing. They are but words on a page. They only have meaning in how we see them, and bring them into our lives and spirits. 'The enemy' sees his own source of righteousness by a different interpretation of the very same words. If you only regurgitate scripture, you reflect back onto him exactly what he wishes to see. If we carry a good interpretation of the scriptures into our soul, and let it grow, then we are as much prophets as were Joseph and Paul. If you have received the spirit of Jesus within you, and he is there, can't you just as easily look within and ask Jesus the same questions as you would ask the dead Jesus in the scripture? If Alan can, and you cannot, maybe you left your Jesus on the page? That last two are not statements, or judgements, only questions. IMHO, if one has truly received the Lord then the Holy Spirit resides within, and if we cannot ask the Spirit within, then we deny that it is there. The Holy Spirit speaks to me from within as surely as my grandfather, who is no longer of this world. Sometimes, when I need an answer, I simply ask them, and they give me advice. If Jesus is to you an intermediary, then look inside yourself to his spirit that you have received within you, and ask him your hearts' desire. The Church has forgotten that every person is a temple, and prefers to extort salvation. This is not a universal condemnation, but in some ways, for some, it is nonetheless true. They have no monopoly on truth. The Jesus within Alan speaks to me as loudly as the Jesus they hang upon a wall. Peace, Darrin P.S. By the 'enemy' I refer to no one on this board, who can honestly look within himself. 'Dis'honesty is the enemy. There is no 'not', only 'I AM'. Our lives are an unfolding, living scripture that will not 'begin' but continues to unfold.