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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (13592)	11/6/1998 10:54:00 PM
From: zax	Respond to of 67261

(snipped a lot of tree huggin' empty-headed moralizing ashram and incense garbage) I assure you, the "tree huggers" cherish life as radically as the pro-lifers, only in a different manifestation of the same belief system. Both are a little radical relative to my tastes. (From an earlier note of yours) my opponent attempted to claim my position on morality was an ipso facto contradiction to physical relativism. Of course this is fallacious. Either you are a relativist or you aren't. Relativism is the understanding that every object in this universe is connected... in a basic mathematical sense. Action -> Reaction. Even light is restricted by relativity. Light cannot travel faster than its own speed. And in the universe of light, no other object appears to be moving faster than the speed of light. Now if you could break the light barrier, that would really impress me. Unfortunately, the only way to do this, is to warp time itself. The past present and future are connected. The people who lived 10,000 years ago were no different than you and I, and probably no happier or sadder in their everyday lives. I'm still struggling with the free will versus manifest destiny issue myself. Where do you stand there? About the best way I can answer this one is to say that everything that has happened before now has occurred because it was destined to happen, but at this particular point, I exhibit free will. It really doesn't answer the question. Is the question answerable? I suggest you read Manifest Destiny and Mission in American History - Frederick Merk. And beware the famous Chinese curse... "May you live in interesting times." Regards, -- Eric