To: Richard S. Schoenstadt who wrote (24627 ) 11/7/1998 11:01:00 AM From: Steve Sanchez Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
good morning richard, >>You should welcome critics and shorts - as a way to test your views >>which may be infected by those two mental states - not chase them >>away. i agree with you here. unfortunately, their arguments have either been non-existent or downright falsehoods. >>Your problem IMO is that you take everything that Tava says at face >>value. i know you're addressing john on this point, but how can one do otherwise when TAVA has a track record in saying they are going to do one thing and a quarter or two later they actually do what they said they were going to. As examples: * during one of the CC's (hope you heard or read these) they said they were being pulled towards implementing their y2k solution to the medical arena and did in fact back up what they said a quarter later by announcing the CMED alliance. * they mentioned that they wanted to do something for the small, single plant user and they've accomplished this with the latest announcement Message 6323921 * they've said "part of our strategy is to team with those types of folks [I2, Manugistics], ...". As you saw in the Sept. 23rd CC they announced an alliance with I2 as a certified implementation partner. (who is I2: i2.com the last example proves to me they are well into their plan to extend their business into the MES, supply chain, and ERP arenas. if you read the CC transcript ( siliconinvestor.com ; you will see other examples that prove this to be the case. >>Rick Bulotta thinks they can make 10%. If they can then things will >>probably be ok. I don't think they can. I doubt they can make 5%. now considering this MES, supply chain, ERP business it is logical to assume that their margins are going to be higher than what you say. here is what Bulotta said when you asked him:do you have any opinions on what kind of net margins Tava can achieve after year 2k is over and done with? Bulotta's June 15th answer: "Margin also depends a great deal on the type of work being performed for the client...the closer one gets to the plant floor devices, the more "commodity-based" the services get, competing with independents at $50-75 an hour. Also, design and consulting phases of the project tend to command higher rates than the implementation phases (interestingly, with less risk as well!). As you move closer to the MES and supply chain management layer, rates move through the roof, from $125 and up (and up!). Currently, however, TAVA is still nascent in this area and any significant movement to focus on this "sweet spot" is all talk for now (though it is something I have been encouraging TAVA exec mgmt to do for quite some time)."Message 4891980 i would venture to say that TAVA has moved away from talking and is executing their plan. steve