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To: Gottfried who wrote (4)11/7/1998 11:11:00 PM
From: Stitch  Respond to of 1989
 
GM,

<<I think some drive makers have been dragging their feet, trying to retain TFI heads longer than necessary >>

In fact extendability of TFI was a cornerstone of strategy at both WDC and Maxtor at one time. Maxtor redirected towards MR after losing their CTO, Dr.Toan Doan, who has gone on to found the new cartridge company in Boulder, and after they lost a key technologist, Dave Danson, who was tragically killed in an auto accident while driving to the Denver airport one day. Both saw extendability of TFI as a key cost reduction method. WDC went ahead with their plan and the rest is history. It has severely crippled them and, IMO, killed AMC. I do not believe the switch to GMR will be quite so slow and I a eager to see what SEG does here.

Best,
Stitch



To: Gottfried who wrote (4)11/8/1998 12:55:00 AM
From: CPAMarty  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1989
 
from "mastermind FYI" at yahoo; name aside, i have found this author's posts to be of high quality

On the fundemental side, remember the disk drive industry is not doing that great. QNTM hasn't made any money in months; it makes money selling tapes. WDC may be profitable in the second half of 99, if the whole hardware business dosn't go into a tail spin over Y2K (which it will). MXTR was spun off becuase its parent could't afford to keep paying the losses for 12 straight quarters and it need cahs not red ink. And SEG makes money at the high end and in software and sells disk drives which growing 15% as a sector, but has a 15% decline in gross selling price. Hence, gross revenue will be flat, flat, flat, flat!!!!

6. None of these companies (QNTM, WDC or SEG) can run up to 40 or 50 agian without starting to increase gross revenue. When SEG was selling for 40+, it was taking in over 2.4 billion in gross revenue: look at the following!!

Oct to Jan 96 = 2.4 billion (stock price 32 to 52)
Jan to Apr 97 = 2.5 billion (stock price 56 to 42)
Apr to Jul 97 = 2.0 billion (stock price 53 to 32)
Jul to Oct 97 = 1.9 billion (stock price 46 to 25)
Oct to Jan 98 = 1.7 billion (stock price 29 to 18)
Jan to Apr 98 = 1.7 billion (stock price 29 to 19

Jul to Oct 98 = 1.5 billion (stock price 19 to 31)

CONCLUSION:

Even with better margins, SEG has to start making more than 1.7 billion in gross to justify a stock price above 32. Further, with conditions bascially flat (15% groth and 15% price declines) and SEG's market share being challenged by MXTR and FIJTSU, I just dont see how gross is going to go up all that much, and then stay there for any lenth of time. The days of 2.5 billion in gross por quarter are gone for as long as the eye can see. You can upgrade all you want, but SEG pulled in 1.55 billion last quarter --->

DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO PULL IN MORE THAN 1.65 NEXT!!!

Good Luck to the new longs


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To: Gottfried who wrote (4)11/8/1998 4:53:00 PM
From: Carl R.  Respond to of 1989
 
I'd have to agree regarding TFI to MR to GMR. It is similar to the 4Mbit to 16MBit to 64MBit conversion in DRAM which happened over an unusually fast time.... unless you consider that memory stayed at 4MBit for an unusually long time.

Carl