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To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (21675)	11/8/1998 1:10:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>...Sam, you do not ask in honesty...><> Or with sincerity from a searching heart. You do not wish to understand the scriptures which you ask of. You only desire to mock the followers of Christ, and blaspheme His most precious name. To this extent I cannot be a party to your very unethical and unholy intentions. I will say this though, the scriptures you ask about are easily discerned and they are filled with love, in that they are a warning to those who are doing the work of God. You need to go back to v.17, in order to understand the subject Jesus is discussing, and continue on to v.25. ( It could be Sam, that if you do not have a change of heart, you could be just the type of character Christ is warning His followers of)...Do you even know what Christ was making reference to? ....or....what event? Can you follow a subject when reading? And the other scriptures you mention, are even more discernable for those who truly have eyes to see....You do not Sam, because you have believed a lie.! All the scriptures you put forth are from a loving and gracefilled God.! You do not understand, because you read them with the heart of a pagan! You care not for the love of God, nor do you strive or care to understand His love. He has given you over to a repobate mind, because you take pleasure in believing a lie! You have set your own destiny in motion, and only you can change the course! I would gladly, and with all honesty, in pure love for my Saviour,and in all sincerity to you, help you to understand all that God's word was intended to reveal, if I believed for one minute that you were sincerely, seeking His love and understanding, and wanted an honest relationship with Him....At this time you do not. Sam, if your heart is contrite, and at sometime in the future you decide to really get to know the God who loves you more than you know, and desires only good for you, then He will surely dispel any and all lies you have formed about Him, and plant the truth of His love, firmly into your whole being.... But you must give Him your all! He does nothing 1/2 way and neither can you! In following the commands of God,(as you put it) I must tell you this: The pearls of God are just too precious to cast out to one who only uses them to step on, and desires only to use them as a weapon. Are you familiar with that command Sam? Sincerely, Shalom...><>

To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (21675)	11/8/1998 8:11:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Sam, Jesus knew that what He was preaching concerning Himself would bring division of all kinds. The examples about family members was used to emphasize just how severe the division would be. He was saying even children and parents would be against each other. All the more shocking considering the structure of the Jewish family. You will have to admit that Jesus was correct. There has been division amoung people ever since about the gospel of Jesus Christ. This thread is an example also. Matt. 10:34 Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. You may think this is a reason to accuse Jesus. Not so. He has the keys of death and of hades. He accomplished our salvation. Maybe if people wanted peace then it would have happened. But the jewish priests wanted to retain their power, many jews wanted Jesus to free them from the roman's, many simply continued in unbelief. There are many reasons that peace was/is not possible and that cannot be blamed on Jesus. I think that is where you are trying to lead me so I saved you the post to make the accusation! Bob