Has this interview with Craig Barrett In India been brought in here yet? If you've seen it, ignore. Anyway, Craig a little on the irreverent side, if you can call slapping Cyrix irreverent.
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"I am paranoid, and I believe in Moore's Law. Besides, I am working out Barett's Law"
On a two-day tour of India last week, Craig R. Barrett, 59-year old President and CEO of Intel Corp. lobbied with the government, refined the recommendations of the IT Task Force, and offered a roadmap of business computing in the next millenium to Indian IT industry chieftains. A Ph.D. in Materials science from Stanford University, Barrett joined Intel in 1974 as Technology Development Manager. It took him 23 years to become Intel's fourth President. Dr Barrett heads the US Department of Commerce's Semiconductor Technology Council. Computers Today's Atanu Roy caught up with him.
IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Cyrix, AMD all have laid out their future processor roadmap. Also, AMD has returned to profitability and Apple's iMac sales was phenomenal. Are you worried?
As far as iMacs are concerned, I think Apple's volumes are stabilising at somewhere less than 3 percent of the world market. That might be a satisfactory level to keep them fixed in a niche marketplace. But then, Apple's sales volume has been coming down year by year.
AMD has been our competitor for the past 15-20 years. The fight is primarily in the entry-level PC market. We'll continue to be aggressive in that segment, although we recognise bigger opportunities in workstations and servers in the higher end, both 32- and 64-bit. Cyrix continues to make announcements about new products coming in. In fact, they are much better making announcements than introducing products. At the same time, whenever they launched any product, we have appraised our whole product range.
Your profit in the third quarter this year was less than last year's. Any particular reason?
We had record revenue in the third quarter, but profits were down in comparison to the same quarter last year. One of the main reasons is that we made a conversion from the so-called Socket 7 to the Slot 1 product line. The Pentium II family now has an embedded cache on the little daughter card. That move helped increase sales volume, but brought down margin dollars.
The other issue is the popularity of sub-$1,000 PC. That business has lowered the average selling prices to some degree, and has impacted just about everyone's profitability. Probably one exception here is Dell Computer. It's because Dell has historically not played in the entry-level PC market. Dell's average PC is still about $2,000. So, their profitability was not hurt as that of Compaq, IBM or HP. The real issue in the long term is whether the market stabilises in this segment or not. If the sub-$1,000 PC cannibalises the entire marketplace, there won't be any margin dollar of profitability, and the industry will continue to bleed.
Has profitability anything to do with your decision of laying off 3,000 heads?
In 1995-96-97, we added approximately 12,000 employees in each of those years. We decided to decrease the size this year through attrition of about 3,000 employees. So, after adding 36,000 in the previous three years if we are coming down by roughly 10 percent, that's negligible. Across-the-board, there will be some minor adjustments in our Asia-Pacific workforce, just to balance them with the workload. Business in Asia-Pacific is not growing as fast as it had been in the past few years.
What is Intel's vision about integrating more functionalities in the microprocessor? Are you also planning PC-on-a-chip or modem chips?
The industry has followed an innovation-followed-by-integration cycle, for as long as I have been associated with it. You innovate new ideas, maybe in accelerated cards or additional chips, that functionality then gets integrated into the silicon. And then, that portion of the industry which was innovating the capability will innovate to the next level. If you look at history, there used to be a math co-processor, which is now integrated into the board; you can do modem functions, you can do DVD. If you look at the Intel roadmap, it's no different, especially in the price-sensitive lower end, where integration is one of the ways to get acceptable performance at acceptable cost.
Almost all the microprocessor companies have announced their decision to use copper technology in their chips. What about Intel?
We don't believe that metalization is the most important requirement for current-generation processors. More important are transistors, switching. We want to stay with aluminium metalization for the quarter micron and 0.15 micron technology at present. When we go to 0.13 micron technology, maybe two and a half years later, we want to introduce the copper metalization.
If you look at the initial product introduction by IBM using copper metalization, they are actually running slower than the Intel processor family. The decision to use copper was taken unanimously many years ago. That was for the next generation technology. IBM decided to jump much before the usage was actually required.
Recently you said that Intel doesn't want to be just a chip company.
I think if you take our vision of the future, which is having to serve a billion networked computers in the year 2000, there is also the opportunity of being a networking company targeted specifically towards components. It's also the opportunity to sell services and applications. To join that race, we have a software company called PentaSic in E-commerce--that's the example of Intel as a total solution applications company. Other areas such as digital imaging, service over the Internet are also business opportunities for us. It is correct to say that our main business today is that of integrated circuit supplier, processors, controllers, chipsets, cache memory, local area network, silicon solutions; but we are also interested in system-level solutions in networking and in applications space associated with the Internet.
What are your investment plans in India?
I think your question about investment concerns manufacturing plants, design engineering facility. We intend to make direct investment here in small steps, on a venture capital basis. We have already made one investment, we have several other opportunities under investigation. We are possibly the largest venture capital firm in the high-tech industry. Last year we made over 100 investments, for about $350 million, most of them in the US. Our intention is to internationalise those investments. We will make these venture capital investments in the small entrepreneurial firms who have very aggressive and bright ideas associated with the computer industry.
These will be hardware or software firms?
Both. They have to have exciting new technology to offer. Quite often, they are software firms, which have technology targeted towards the Internet or Internet-type applications; sometimes they are in process equipment industry, which develop technologies to process wafers in our manufacturing lines. It can go as well in providing high-bandwidth, in cable, xDSL technology, satellite technology, or digital entertainment. We will make the investment and also put these companies in touch with other companies with complementary technologies to enhance the prospect of a success in bringing the technology to the market.
What were your recommendations to the IT Task Force whom you met?
The Task force's vision about software development in India corroborates with our vision about using the software talent available here. We also discussed the privatisation of the Internet, and Internet access. We see India as a software provider, creator of value-added software for the Internet, for entertainment and digital content creation. We also talked a little bit about the ease of access of products, the impact of duties, and customs regulations for infotech products.
Some of your motherboards are now stuck in the customs department. Did you talk to the government about that?
I merely suggested that for a country that wanted to be a leader in software technology you need an immediate access to the latest in hardware technology. Confusion or difficulty in getting the hardware technology through customs into the country is detrimental rather than an asset.
What is your opinion about India's IT industry?
India has an opportunity to be a world leader in creating value-added software. By value-added software I mean two categories. One is of enhancing legacy software--using the legacy processes and tools to create mini-age software; and another for digital content creation for Internet applications. I was pushing the concept that the Internet is the application of the future and if you want to be a software powerhouse you should focus on value-added content associated with the Internet, than the more standard traditional legacy software associated with mainframes and databases.
Many OEMs in India have been complaining about your policy of selling the processors directly to any user. It promotes the grey market, and eats into there marketshare, they say.
What tends to promote the grey market not only in India, but all over the world is the resell of our products. What we try to do is combat the grey market by selling the product only when someone needs it for manufacture. When we find that the product in the market is resold, we try to trace to its source and then limit that.
Andy Grove said, "Only the paranoids survive." What is your mantra?
I get to follow several very esteemed icons in the industry: Gordon Moore, Andy Grove... Gordon got a law named after him and Andy has already "Only the paranoid survive". What I would really prefer to do is not be remembered as the CEO of Intel when our group tops the industry; I want to be remembered as the fourth of the CEOs who did exactly the same thing--making Intel very aggressive, number one in the industry, and continue the sort of growth we had in the past. But I am very paranoid, and I believe in Moore's Law. Besides that, I am still working out my Barett's Law. Once I discover it, I'll let you know. |