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To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 11:34:00 AM
From: Sam Ferguson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
The Piso Family in the New Testament

The Pisos felt that they had a 'right' to make a new religion based on Judaism, because they were descendants of the Herodian/Hasmonean hierarchy that appointed the Jewish High Priests.

Arrius Piso was called 'Mountanus' in History. His name was Arrius, which is 'Mars'. In Acts 17:22 they insert Arrius' name by mentioning 'Mars' Hill'. That is 'Arrius Pagos', by making Arrius synonymous with
'hill' they make him a small mountain. If you stood at the bottom of Mars' hill, you could call it a mountain.

But then others may argue that you were "making a mountain out of a mole-hill." Although, that's exactly what the writers of the New Testament did. The above phrase was an inner-circle reference, because the Hebrew word for 'mole' also meant 'chameleon', which Arrius Piso certainly was, as he blended himself into the background of 'history'.

As I said before, the 'history' books of the time, were not so much 'history' books, as they were family ledgers. So was the New Testament! They gave honor to their ancestors and themselves by writing them into the 'Book of Life' i.e., the New Testament. Also, by giving honorable mention to their relatives, they were giving (inserting) another way in which to claim authorship. It was one of the many ways that they used to 'copyright' their work. Of course, since the Herods were Arrius Piso's relatives, he wrote them into
his story. Herod the Great (King Herod), was his (Arrius Piso's) great-great grandfather. Archelaus was his great-uncle, as were Antipas, Philip, and Herod the Tetrarch. Herodias (wife of Philip), was his great-aunt. Agrippa 1 was his grand-uncle, as was Tiberius Julius Alexander (brother of Tigranes).
Aristobulus was his great-grandfather. Agrippa 2, Berenice 2, and Drusilla were his mother's first cousins.

THE HERODIANS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

"Salute Herodion, my kinsman"........... Romans 16, 11

Herod the Great......................... Matt. 2, 1-22

Luke 1, 5

Archelaus..............................Matt. 2, 22

Antipas.................................Matt. 14, 1-10

Mark 6, 14-28

Luke 3, 1,19

Luke 8, 3

Luke 9, 7-9

Luke 13, 31

Luke 23, 7-15

Philip.................................... Luke 3, 1

Herod-Philip......................... Matt. 14, 3-11

Mark 6, 17-28

Luke 3,19

Herodias................................Matt. 14, 3-11

Mark 6, 17-28

Luke 3, 19

Salome.................................. Matt. 14, 6-11

Mark 6, 22-28

Herod-Agrippa 1.................. Acts 12

Agrippa 2..............................Acts 25, 13-27, 26

Berenice.................................Acts 25, 13-27, 26

Drusilla...................................Acts 24, 24

Aristobulus.............................Romans 16, 10

Tiberius Julius Alexander.........Acts 4,6

OTHER ANCESTORS & RELATIVES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Arsinoe. By using the word 'arsenou', they honor (phonetically) Arsinoe (Cleopatra's sister) in 1st Cor.
6:9, and 1st Timothy 1:10.

Ptolemy Auletes. The 11th Ptolemy and father of Cleopatra, is honored in Matthew 4:23, and Rev. 18:22,
by using his name 'auletes'.

Aulus Vitellius. By his 'Aulus' name in Mark 6:15, Matt. 5:39, 1st Timothy 5:25, 1st Cor. 14:7. Augustus Caesar. In Luke 2:1

Arrius Piso. Specifically by his name 'Arrius' in Acts 17:19 and 17:22; and as 'Appius' in Acts 28:15, as
the Latin word for 'forum'. In Acts, 'Mars hill' is 'Arrius Pagos' in Greek.

Otho. They honor Otho by using the word 'othonion' for 'cloth' or 'bandage' in Luke 24:12, and John
19:40, 20:5-7.

Cleopatra Selene. Anytime they use the word 'moon' in Greek, they honor Cleopatra Selene (Cleopatra's
daughter). We find her name used in Mark 13:24, Matt. 24:29, Luke 21:25, and Acts 2:20, 1st Cor.
15:41, Rev. 6:12, 8:12, 12:1, 21:23.

Ptolemy Dionysius. By his 'Dionysius' name in acts 17:34.

Ptolemy Lysanias. By 'Lysanias' in Luke 3:1.

Claudius Caesar. Acts 11:28, 18:2.

Persius the Poet. 'Persis' (dropped the 'u'), in Romans 16:12.

Boionia Priscilla (Arrius Piso's wife). She is placed in the N.T. as the wife of Aquila ('the eagle', Romans
16:3), because she was married to Arrius Piso, who was now like the eagle at the top of the Roman
standard! Also, 2nd Tim. 4:19 ('Prisca'), etc.Livy the writer. The family was related to Livy. Mentioned as
'Levi' in Luke 3:24,29, and Luke 5:27,29.

Marc Antony (Marcus Antonius). Honored in the N.T. by the Title of the 'Gospel' book 'Mark'. Marc
Antony was also a Caesar! His mother, was the sister of the Grandfather (Lucius Julius Caesar), of Julius
Caesar (which makes him a 2nd Uncle of Julius Caesar!).

Cornelius Tacitus. As 'Cornelius' in Acts 10:1,3,7,17,21,22,24,25,30,31.

Dio Chrysostom (i.e., Trajan). By using the word 'Chrysos' for short, they honor Otho's nephew.
'Chrysos' means 'gold', as does 'Flavius'. It is used in Matt. 2:11, and all through the N.T.

Julius Caesar (whom Julius Piso was named after). As 'Julius' in Acts 27:1,3.

Julia Livilla (Caligula's sister). In Romans 16:7 as 'Julia'.

Justus Piso. As 'Justus' in Acts 1:23, 18:7, and Colos. 4:11.

Publius Hadrian. As 'Publius' in Acts 28:7,8.

Antiochus Soter (ancestor of Arrius Piso, 'Soter' means 'Savior', and is why Arrius Piso can also be a
'Saviour'). Whenever they mention 'Antioch', they allude to their ancestors of the Antiochan Dynasty,
because Antioch was founded by Seleucus Nicator, who, named it after his father - Antiochus!

Jason (their ancestor). In Acts 17:5,6,7,9, and Romans 16:21.

Rufus Corelius (1st husband of Claudia Phoebe Pompeia Plotina). As 'Rufus' in Mark 15:21 and Romans
16:13.

Annaeus Gallio (Seneca's brother). As himself in Acts 18:12,14,17.

Annaeus Seneca. As 'Ananias' (phonetic equiv. of 'Annaeus' with 2nd 'n' switched with 2nd 'a'). In Acts
5:1,3,5.

Olympias (wife of Philip of Macedonia). As 'Olympias' in Romans 16:15.

Felix (the husband of Drusilla, daughter of Agrippa 1). In Acts 24:24.

Ovid. As 'Obed' in Matt. 1:5 and as 'Jobed' in Luke 3:32 (Here, Arrius jokes about writing 'Job' as
Josephus.

Gaius Calpernius Piso. As 'Gaius' in Acts 19:29,20:4, and in 1stCor. 1:14, and Romans 16:23, and the
3rd epistle of John, verse 1.

Pliny (Secundus) the Younger. In Acts 20:4.

Lucius Calpernius Piso. As 'Lucius' in Acts 13:1, and Romans 16:21.

Tiberius Caesar. Luke 3:1.

Silius Titianus Italicus (Otho's brother, and Trajan's father). As 'Italicus' in Acts 10:1.

Matthias (the High Priest). Remember, Arrius Piso writing as Josephus is 'Josephus ben Matthias', and he
is descended from the High Priests. And Arrius was! 'Matthias' is in Acts 1:23,26.

Lucan the Poet. 'Luke' is short for 'Lucan', Acts 16:10,20:5.

John Hyrcanus. As Josephus, Arrius Piso writes so much about John Hyrcanus, that the name 'John'
becomes synonymous with 'Hyrcanus'. John Hyrcanus was Arrius piso's Great, Great, Great, Great,
Great, Great-Grandfather! They honor him with the title of the Fourth Gospel. Also, 'Hyrcanus' is Greek
for 'John' in Hebrew.

Nero. They allude to their relative (both through the Julian Caesars and the Domitii Ahenobarbii), when
they speak of parricide (because supposedly, Nero killed his mother), in 1st Timothy 1:9. And, also in 2nd
Tim. 4:22 by name.

Antigonas One-Eye. Alluded to in Matt. 18:9, and Mark 9:47. Actually, they allude loosely to all of their
relatives that had 'one eye' (it might have even been a title, like 'the lion' or 'the Great'), including
Petronianus One-Eye, Petronius Arbiter's brother. Antigonas One-Eye was the brother of Alexander the
Great.

T. Flavius Clemens. 'Clemens' is spelled out in Greek, by running words together in John 15:2,4,5,6. And
Phil. 4:3.

Philip of Macedonia (who was a Greek), had a son named 'Lagos', whose son was the 1st Ptolemy. The
great-great grandson of the 1st Ptolemy married Cleopatra 1, who was an Antiochian. Their great-great
granddaughter was Cleopatra 7 (the Cleopatra that we associate with Julius Caesar), her sister, Arsinoe,
had a son who married Alexanra Regent (who was a Hasmonean i.e., Maccabee). Their daughter, was
Mariamne 1 (who married King Herod). King Herod, was an Imudean. The Imudeans came from a
branch of the Maccabees that sprang from Eleazor Auran (through his son Jason). And from King Herod,
of course, sprang the Herodians. King Herod's grand-daughter Mariamne (Arria the Elder), married
Vespasian's brother, T. Flavius Sabinus 2 (a Flavian). Her daughter was Mariamne (Arria the Younger),
who married Gaius Piso and when he died, Lucius Piso, both Caesars. The son of Gaius Piso and
Mariamne (Arria the Younger), was Arrius Piso a.k.a. 'Flavius' Josephus (as you can see, he was already
a Flavian).

And this the word of God? Hmmmmmmmmm



To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 12:58:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 39621
 
><>...shalom needs no one to explain him...><>

and sorry shalom if that is the way it
appears, just my thoughts.


Are you kidding brother, be my guest,
I love it Dan when you tell them the way it is!

Dan you wrote:
I don't think I am making my point very well

I think you make your points real well. Just some hard headed and hard hearted people....don't get it, they just don't get it!

These guys which condemn God and His people are always trying to re-write God's words. As if they could do it better.!!Another one of satan's tricks...Let them knock themselves out Dan, They will die trying.

Have a good day
Shalom...><>



To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 2:39:00 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Look here

Message 6377974




To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 4:46:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
DCF,

I'm writing to try to demonstrate how a change in perspective from outer to inner transforms a passage.

1 Cor. 5:5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.

The man is the child who is ego, the wife the body, the father, God, or the Christ within.

2 And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this?

Pride, or ego. Are we filled with it, or the Holy Spirit? If we are prideful, should we rejoice, or put it away from us?

3 Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present.

Even as we revel in ego, we know it is a hollow 'victory' and fleeting.

Have to continue on another page, SI difficulties with long messages.

Peace,
Darrin



To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 4:52:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier  Respond to of 39621
 
4 When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present,
5 hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.

When a man has learned to separate what is of God from what is 'not' of God within himself, he expels all that is not, or burns it up in a Holy Fire.

6 Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough?

We cannot 'rise' on wrong beliefs. Wrong beliefs multiply, if unhealed or uncorrected.

7 Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast--as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.

When these mistaken beliefs of ego are removed, all that shall be left is the Christ within us, and he shall 'rise' again. Don't forsake the Christ within yourself by reveling in the 'old yeast'.

Space considerations...continued...

Peace,
Darrin



To: PROLIFE who wrote (21747)11/11/1998 5:02:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier  Respond to of 39621
 
8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.

The ego will find joy in spreading its fame with falsehoods and lies that are not onto God. Deflate it!

9 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--

Those WITHIN us who are not of the Unity, the joining in Christ.

10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

The times when one is weak, or does something out of despair, this person within oneself is not 'guilty' and in need of expelling, but is aperson within ourself, our inner congregation, in need of healing.

11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

Any part of oneself that does not despair at its lack of Godliness, but revels in it, calls itself the truth when it lies, (as in ego) these are those of our inner congregation whom we must expel.

Can you see how looking at this from an inner perspective takes away the conflict, and shows how Jesus was teaching us to transform Ourselves? I see no mention of being concerned with other souls at all here. But this is just my interpretation.

Peace,
Darrin