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To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 12:19:00 PM
From: jean1057  Respond to of 27311
 
thanks a lot for your work...appreciated a lot...I agree the "no comment" on OEM testing on production line...sounded to me immediately like a yes..but may not say...thanks again...



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 12:19:00 PM
From: Dennis V.  Respond to of 27311
 
Thanks all for your efforts! EOM



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 12:22:00 PM
From: Greg McDaniel  Respond to of 27311
 
I thought Lev said it would take about 16 weeks to retool for a different size.



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 12:29:00 PM
From: Jacques Tenzel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27311
 
Thanks for your comprehensive summary of the C.C. Those of us who are long VLNC really appreciate the work that you folks on this thread are doing to keep us informed of facts as they transpire. It is fundamental information that we need to make informed decisions and your summary of the call is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work.
Jacques



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 1:15:00 PM
From: Greg Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27311
 
Were the numbers Lev gave for one-line profitability $2.50/Wh and 1800 cells per day. . . or 18,000 cells per day? 1800 cells/8-hr day is only 3.75 cells per minute. I thought he said 18,000, which would seem to be a production rate more in line with previous estimates. Can anyone clarify this for me? thanks.



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 1:18:00 PM
From: Larry Brew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27311
 
John, << customer testing production line >>
It doesn't work that way, speaking from 27 years with TI, in design, process, product, and process development. Once prototypes are built,
they are placed on life test for reliability. Simultaneously, and
often before life test, proto-type devices are sent to the customer for evaluation. Production can not begin until customer approves all samples and life testing passes all parameters. The customer can waive certain life test failures if he believes these failures are
not critical to reliability. As you can see, it would be a difficult
question to answer to someone not in the field.Hence the no comment. If the device is said to be in production prior to completion of all testing, it's actually
in pre-production. This would not occur without a very high degree of confidence in the product. Production puts a lot of capital at risk for both parties. Customer will be paying for all production devices that pass production testing, with risk of reliability failures in the field. The manufacturer's risk is yield. If only a few % of devices built pass testing, he has no profit margin.
Larry



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/11/1998 2:41:00 PM
From: Jeff S.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27311
 
Good job John, however, I think in your rush you made two errors:

10. Break even point, Lev made a point that the break even was on a cash basis, not including deprecitiation.

17. Retooling - It would take 4 months to retool for another cell size.

I thought the CC was upbeat, except at the end when someone again asked if OEM's were getting samples from the live line, and Lev refused to answer. He didn't sound very up beat.

Go VLNC.

Jeff



To: John Curtis who wrote (4824)11/12/1998 9:00:00 AM
From: Herb Blair  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27311
 
Morning John,
The cc was about as expected.BUT:
13. Have any OEM's been testing product off the production line? L.D. - no comment.
Maybe in context that answer sounded alright but why that answer when a simple yes or no would have been more revealing?
Regards, Herb