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To: PROLIFE who wrote (21775)	11/11/1998 5:28:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Dan do you absolutely believe every word in the bible is the inspired word of God and you are to follow it? I ask the same of the others claiming this to state and aver that is their belief. I want them to openly state that all moral absolutes are to be done by christians. Do you think this possible to state publicly without a bunch of bible verses as reasons for me to do the same. Will you people quit wasting your time on me as I have committed the unpardonable sin making your prayers useless. Think about your answers carefully as I may quote a prior post of yours to prove you lie. Swear on your bible under oath to answer truthfully.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (21775)	11/11/1998 5:39:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

DCF, You wrote:" Virtually every one of the 55 writers and signers of the United States Constitution were members of various Christian denominations: 29 were Anglicans, 16 to 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 lapsed Quaker and sometimes Anglican, and 1 open deist--Dr. Franklin who attended every kind of Christian worship, called for public prayer, and contributed to all denominations. "Neither...let it be overlooked, that public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability, and usefulness." The last paragraph you spoke of is CONTROL, I believe the very point Sam is trying to make. By the way, many of those signers of the Constitution were also members of the Freemasons, Illuminati, and similar organizations. Maybe the only one who can control us is us, by the 'truth' of our choosing. Peace, Darrin "The enemy is US." -Pogo

To: PROLIFE who wrote (21775)	11/11/1998 6:43:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Dan greed was the purpose of the settlers in Virginia. The settlers were slaves not freedom fighters. For your informations Deist have a strong belief in morality and the fact there must be a creator. It is mostly described as God but there are many versions of what or who that may consist. Ben Franklin was A Rosicrucian deist and a quaker from the northern immigrants. The northern group settled apart from the Virginians because of religious freedom. I did not say all the signers of the constitution were quakers. He was acquainted with the Gnostic Christ not the man Jesus.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (21775)	11/14/1998 4:34:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

RE: The Constitution Isn't it amazing that a group of such distinguished and conservative churchmen as the Founders could write a Constitution (and have it ratified by all 13 states) without once mentioning a god, or a church, or religion itself. It was the strongest possible assertion that a citizen's religion was his own affair, and not something to be imposed on others, and that the state ought to be completely secular and not involved in any way with religion. But the people did not trust them on this and other problems. The first Congress elected in part by the people (and in part by the people's legislatures) in Amendment I immediately banned Congressional establishment (although state establishment was permitted until Amendment XIV in 1868) and guaranteed free exercise of religion against Congressional encroachment.