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To: one_less who wrote (14641)	11/12/1998 2:07:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Brees, I'll ask for a little clarification here. The problem of the current age is, the foundation of human well-being has been subjugated to something called the "greater good;" problem is, the definition of the establishment's "greater good's" are no longer good for the Earth and the creatures of the Earth, including you and me. That's a little vague, the thing that first comes to my mind from this statement is environmental stuff. Like old Slade Gorton's "Forest Health Preservation" bill, aka the Salvage Rider. Or like the nonexistence of global warning currently under discussion here. << We can't turn back the clock. We must live within the real world. >> I have no intention of turning back the clock. Although I cherish my personal history, I would never want to repeat it and definitely would not suggest such a course for anyone else. <<Ooo K I'm all ears.>> Well, if I was all mouth we'd have it made:) Any way, you seem open minded. What is very dangerous today and ironically more necessary than ever in history is the willingness to take a step out of bounds. I'm not good at playing fair. The rule makers are tyrants. The real world is a frontier. How adventurous are you? That is a bit vague again. Going back up the chain, I see the topic is sex and kids. As pezz implied, kids find out about sex one way or the other. Our culture is permeated with it, but it's also natural to be curious about it. Do you think the political moral reformation front should push for a ban on sexual situations in TV and advertising? Something close existed in the '50's, but teens still got pregnant, at much the same rate as today. They tended to be a little older. The outcome was a little different too, lots of shotgun weddings, homes for unwed mothers, back-alley abortions. The well-off could always ship the kid off to Switzerland to have matters taken care of discretely, but the choices for others were tougher. And in the '50s, it was easier to get through life with a high school education than it is now. Not that it will make any difference, but before I get the usual misconstrued lecture thrown back at me, I don't think high school age kids should have sex. But they have to learn to make their own decisions, based on honest information. "Just say no" is good if it comes from the heart, and not out of fear from dishonest education. Even better would be if we could somehow figure out how to get teenage boys to not push the issue, as they tend to do. Something to do with hormones, I think. Cheers, Dan.

To: one_less who wrote (14641)	11/12/1998 11:26:00 PM
From: pezz	Respond to of 67261

<<You all laughed for more than one reason>> I think you are going too deep here brees. We laughed because they tried to tell us things that we knew not to be true.Things that weren't true. Adults are fools when they try to treat young people as stupid. They lose creditability and nothing they say is accepted. This is what I meant by dishonest. << I'm not good at playing fair...the willingness to take a step out of bounds.. The real world is a frontier ....How adventures are you?>> Holy st!*... Yes indeed I am open minded, but as you know by now we are of very different philosophies. None the less I will listen and give honest consideration to whatever* you say.... no matter how crazy (-: Curiosity running wild,pez