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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (31761)11/12/1998 4:47:00 PM
From: Big Dog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
That makes sense. But when will it improve...one month, one year, five years, longer? One must consider the risk/reward, time value of money, alternative investments.

We have a dead cat bounce here, in my opinion. But rest assured -- I sell rigs -- I don't claim to be a stock guru.

Anybody calculated earnings X and a 8-9 PE when day rates go to cash break even on day rates? I will give a free ODB subscription to anyone that does such a calculation on a few of the drillers. The easy ones to do this on would be MRL, RDC, ATW and maybe NE. (Since these don't have a "ton" of term contracts.)

big
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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (31761)11/12/1998 5:05:00 PM
From: JZGalt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
George,

Waiting for the obvious improvement in the fundamentals is probably too late as you state, however, buying in the light of DECREASING DAYRATES and CONTINUED OVERCAPACITY is also not the wisest thing to do. If you don't want to trade these stocks, then at least step aside until you see some sort of a flattening out of the rates and some improvement in the oil price situation. I'd rather risk missing the first 50% off the bottom and catch the sweet part of the rise when it comes.

I think you have to realize that in March when we got the first rebound in the sector, there were only 21 jackups within 90 days of the end of their contracts. That number has swelled to over 50 right now. Remember the Gulf can handle a few jackups being idle and not have a collapse in dayrates, but once the numbers gets as large as it is, I doubt that we will see an improvement in their fortunes anytime soon.

Avoid these stocks or trade them.