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To: XiaoYao who wrote (21431)	11/13/1998 9:19:00 AM
From: rudedog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Is this the original resource of infamous "cut off air supply"? As far as I know Larry Ellison was the original source of this remark. This was in a discussion about Oracle's competitive plans regarding Sybase in 1993 in a semi-public forum attended by a number of 'Oracle partners' (including me). Ellison is a very colorful speaker and no one at the meeting thought it was an unusual remark for him.

To: XiaoYao who wrote (21431)	11/13/1998 2:33:00 PM
From: XiaoYao	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Microsoft, Intel wage war of words news.com McGeady also had testified that Maritz said his company's strategy was to "embrace, extend, and extinguish" competing technologies, such as the HTTP and HTML Web standards, as well as Sun Microsystems' Java programming language. Holley suggested that McGeady's claims concerning the meeting were not supported by other Intel executives who had attended. The Microsoft lawyer pointed out that notes taken by other attendees never refer to comments concerning Netscape's air supply or the extinguishing of competing strategies. What's more, Holley pointed out, the closest McGeady--who apparently has a habit of taking detailed notes--came to recording either of the alleged comments was in a line in his notes that reads: "embrace/extend/change (the nature of the Internet experience)." OK, another infamous line came from same source, same person. This is the little dirty trick. Intentionally leak confidential information to reporters, made up some colorful language and put the words in MSFT executive's mouth, created negative public perception for MSFT before the trial. That is a good one, you know, learn something new everyday. Since this guy "has more IQ than most", he probably figured this out all by himself without hints from Barksdale and DOJ. At one point during this morning's session, U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson admonished Holley for introducing email in which McGeady referred to Grove, his boss, in a disparaging way. "What are you trying to demonstrate? Are you just trying to embarrass him?" Jackson asked. "No I'm not, your honor, although that may be the consequence," Holley answered. He is a good employee too, called his boss "Mad Dog", warned other company executive to be careful when dealing with his company.