To: Alan Markoff who wrote (21856 ) 11/13/1998 8:46:00 PM From: Darrin Vernier Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
Alan, 'Answer this who created God..........' God is everything. Everything is infinite. God is infinite. There is no true beginning, and no true end. This is part of what I am trying to get you to see. You are trying to understand an infinite God with linear sequential reasoning. It doesn't work. This is part of Jesus's message. Look at the pictures. If you think God had to be created, then you believe in 'not' God, my friend. God is 'not' subject to time, time is our trial. God exists in all times simultaneously. Seeing a beginning and an end is a choice, a viewpoint. We can choose otherwise, as Jesus showed us. What else could he have known to give him such courage? And just where do you think heaven is? If you don't see heaven here, as well as 'there', that is 'not' thinking too. There is another way, as Jesus showed. 'But the bottom line is that God Created Man and Women........ You can not be a God if you are created............. It goes back to the true God the I AM........... If you think we are Gods than I just disagree.' Disagreeing is fine, and quite ok by me. If God created us in his image, we have his DNA as surely as we have our physical father's. And just as surely as God, we can create another man. 'Not' in a labratory, but by the sacrament of birth. By your reasoning your son cannot be a man if you have given birth to him. "'Another question, who is this "us" that made man?'" '26: And God said, Let us make man in our image...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.' Either God is both male and female, or he is/was 'not' one, but many! And We Were There With Him, before we went through the Separation, and were expelled from the Garden, to the 'world' of man, into linear sequential time. If, when, we leave, we shall return whence we came. 'Us for myself infers to all that had been created (remember we all have DNA blood ect.... :-) ) you can't logically say they created beings are Gods. God was not created thus I AM.... we are created in his image but that does not make us Gods or God.' It does 'not' say Let me make them or us, it says let us make man. Your logic is failing to defend itself. Let your spirit take over. Sam has pointed out contradiction, and so have I. The contradictions are put there in the Bible ON PURPOSE, to make us reconsider a point we might entirely miss from another perspective. One perspective alone is linear sequential, and insufficient. Have you ever noticed a passage can mean a different thing to you every time you read it, because each time is a different place in your life? This is no accident, it is a tool, and a key to understanding. Don't lose your keys. Peace, Darrin