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To: PROLIFE who wrote (21906)	11/14/1998 5:44:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Dan, "People can remain unchanged quite easily, if they fall prostrate to their knees in awe of worship. If the person is truly seeking I would disagree with this, if one is falling down just to be falling or showing, then yes. I can not tell you that you are doing one or the other as you can not tell me I am or not." Your distinction between someone who is truly seeking and someone who is not is an excellent one. I wish I had been wise enough to phrase it that way myself in my post. And you are right, I cannot tell you. If you have made the distinction you did above, then even from my perspective, you are right on track. Not that my opinion matters, if you are finding truth and standing in true judgement. John 5: 19 Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. The created cannot be the creator. Your poem makes another point. God can carry us. Did you ever read a poem where you carried God because of His weakness? No, of course not. But there is still a Son and a Father within me. The I of my ego, or false beliefs, is the Son, and the I AM is God. The father carries the son. The son denies the father. The son learns, and grows, and sheds all that is 'not' like the father, as in a butterfly shedding a chrysolis. The new self that emerges has BECOME the father, by putting away the garments of the son, and putting on those of the father. The Son carries the Father by becoming him, and in so doing, when he then carries himself, he is carrying the Father that he has become. This does not detract from the original Son and the original Father in any way, but glorifies and respects what they are. The Father is still God, the Son still a Lamb, who must be sacrificed, and rise again unto the Lord. What happened in the world, happens in us as well. We may see different pictures, and different words, but from your last post, I suspect we may just see the same. Peace, Darrin

To: PROLIFE who wrote (21906)	11/15/1998 8:37:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Here is an interesting article sent to me today. Thoughts? BOMBING BAGHDAD'S BABIES Edward Fudge ____________________________________________________ A gracEmail reader in Bucharest, Romania writes: "I would like to make a comment about Mr. Clinton. I think this nonsense about these women is just a smokescreen to divert our attention to what he is doing in Iraq, by the sanctions starving about 1,000,000 innocent citizens. What have they done to us? Should we punish them because of their dictator? If we do, the same will happen to us. We reap what we sow. 'Suffer the little Iraqi children to come unto me and kill them not, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven' (my unauthorized version)." * * * In the Old Testament, the land we identify as Iraq was known as Mesopotamia. Ur of the Chaldees was there, and perhaps the Garden of Eden. This land also contained Babylonia and Assyria, two of the most cruel and aggressive empires of ancient times. Cyrus the Persian (modern Iran) conquered this land in 539 B.C., and Alexander the Great conquered it again in 331 B.C. A renewed Persian Empire swallowed it up a century later until Arab Muslims captured it in the seventh century A.D. The Mongols invaded this land in the 13th century and the Turks conquered it in the 17th century, making it part of their Ottoman Empire. Iraq became a British Mandate after World War I, then a kingdom, then an independent sovereign state in 1932. In 1979, Saddam Hussein became President of Iraq. Like Nebuchadnezzar of ancient Babylonia, or Sargon and Sennecherib of ancient Assyria, this wily potentate cares little for human life, is merciless to his enemies and lusts for the lands of his neighbor states. He is unquestionably evil. He poses a danger to the security of the region and a threat to the stability and peace of the world. It now appears increasingly likely that the U.S. will bomb Baghdad, to teach Saddam a much-needed lesson. In view of those facts, I would far rather not ask some troublesome questions, but they will not leave my mind. Is it morally right for us to bomb Baghdad, knowing that Saddam will surround probable targets with civilian men, women and children whom our bombs will kill, while he himself will likely escape? What have those families done to us or to others to deserve death? Who appointed the U.S. to be world policeman and law enforcer? And whose laws do we enforce? The U.N.'s? If so, against whom? Iraq alone -- or also Israel? What logic determines when we side with corrupt despots and dictators (as we did with Saddam in earlier years, and -- at other times -- with the Shah of Iran, Marcos of the Philippines, Noriega in Panama, and the list goes on) and when we turn against them? The Cold War with Russia? No longer. Oil? Geopolitics? Strategic interests? Who decides? By what authority? Should Christians ask such questions? Ought we to wonder? To speak out? If my country does bomb Baghdad, will the blood of its babies be on my head? Must the people die for the sins of their ruler?