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To: jbe who wrote (14922)11/14/1998 4:54:00 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Respond to of 67261
 
Very interesting Joan. "Progressive conservatives" and "neo-progressivism"......both imply the need to abandon the status quo. And it truly is a reflection of the nature of the battle between the "liberal" and "conservative" approach. Seems we're currently stuck in the middle and going nowhere fast.

There's little disagreement on both sides that there are serious fundamental flaws in our institutions and government.
Consider SS, most people (liberal and conservative) would acknowledge the necessity of some type of government sponsored assistance for the elderly. And yet when SS was conceived, the country was in a far different financial and demographic reality than what we have today.

We now have "rich" elderly with much higher standards of living than your typical GenX college graduate. So how do you address the disparity? Do we tax our children into financial oblivion to maintain the status quo or do we go "back to the drawing board" and redefine the program consistent with todays' financial and demographic conditions.

Those who are "liberal" are usually advocating maintaining the status quo ("We must protect and preserve SS for our seniors") and those who are "conservative" see the system as broken and no amount of tinkering around the edges will preserve it. (At least not without the potential of generational warfare as a result)

So the question is which approach is "progressive". Liberal or conservative? My current view is that the "conservative" approach is progressive and the "liberal" approach is re-actionary.

bp



To: jbe who wrote (14922)11/14/1998 6:30:00 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
How about post-modern conservative and post-modern liberals? Another name for the post-modern liberal is the road worrier. Post-modern conservative would be mad max.