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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (25950)	11/15/1998 12:37:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Here is a web site that shows the "science" is being tailored to fit the pre-conceived notion of evolution. They want to prove natural selection/evolution and search for the "science" to do it. talkorigins.org Here is the evolutionist's statement of FAITH! <<It is important to note that Darwin's book "The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection" did two things. It summarized all of the evidence in favor of the idea that all organisms have descended with modification from a common ancestor, and thus built a strong case for evolution. In addition Darwin advocated natural selection as a mechanism of evolution. Biologists no longer question whether evolution has occurred or is occurring. That part of Darwin's book is now considered to be so overwhelmingly demonstrated that is is often referred to as the FACT of evolution. However, the MECHANISM of evolution is still debated.>> <<Biologists no longer question>> Why did biologists stop questioning? Darwin made his assertions before the world had any knowledge of biology, genes, DNA. And in light of the admission that scientists today still don't know how it happens why do they assert that it certainly must? <<However, the MECHANISM of evolution is still debated.>> It's debated because the scientists still don't even know how it could happen. It's bad science to start with the outcome and then to seek the means. <<That part of Darwin's book is now considered to be so overwhelmingly demonstrated that is is often referred to as the FACT of evolution.>> How is it overwhelmingly demonstrated when scientists today (compared to which Darwin is on the level of an imbecile) cannot show how evolution can happen. It's bad science to set out to prove a preconceived idea as fact. And to this day it is still not proved, just "considered to be overwhelmingly demonstrated" by those who choose to believe in evolution. But they cannot show the "fact", they just consider it a "fact". Just a leap of faith. Bob

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (25950)	11/15/1998 12:38:00 PM
From: E	Respond to of 108807

Fossil evidence shows intermediate "species" ("species" is a man made concept, of course, and I use the quotes there to make that point) and DNA traces lineages through species. Bob, all you are saying is that no one has been able to watch for millions upon millions of years while the process of natural selection eventuated in speciation. <<so long as natural selection has enough generations to work on, and can cast aside scores of failed experiments for every one it preserves-- its creations can be awesome,>> to excerpt Robert Wright again. and, as to the way it works, again: <<The thing that is massively more probable than the charmed lineages [read, for "lineage," species-- E] that populate the world today-- an uncharmed lineage, which reaches a dead end through an unlucky break-- happened a massively larger number of times.>> Millions of years. Millions and millions and millions.