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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 3:48:00 AM
From: XiaoYao	Respond to of 74651

Do you have anything useful to say besides sh-t? You are realy a dead dirty pig as yourself claimed.

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 8:42:00 AM
From: ToySoldier	Respond to of 74651

Wow! (yet another un-provoked slam from a thrashing and desperately nervous MSFT-Lemming) Lets continue to get you more worried Beavis-the Butthead.... from today's NYT on Oracle: "There is a large market for dedicated appliances on computer networks," said Eric Schmidt, chief executive of the Novell Corporation, which sells network server systems. "It is a real revenue opportunity, and it minimizes the role of the operating system." In recent months, Ellison has criticized Microsoft's strategy to place millions of servers running Windows 2000 -- the new name for Windows NT -- in small businesses and large corporations. Ellison says the strategy will prove costly and unmanageable for businesses. And he accuses Microsoft of worsening the shortage of high-technology workers in the United States because its systems require so many people to administer. An alternative vision of computing, Ellison's system would centralize the storage of information. His critics call it a look backward toward the era of the mainframe computer. "Leave the files where they are," said Janet Perna, general manager of International Business Machines' data base business. I.B.M.'s rival DB2 system, she said, employs pointers on the central server that lead people to data distributed among many computers in a corporation. The battle over the data base market is crucial because these enormous electronic filing cabinets are the increasingly essential software programs that permit large and small corporations to track and control all aspects of their business. Applications can range from running a corporation accounting system to e-mail servers that act as electronic post offices. The battle for market share in the $8.6 billion data base industry has become a crucial beachhead for software companies that offer one-stop shopping for the business world. Until now, says Dataquest, a market research firm, almost 53 percent of the market for corporate data bases has been controlled by Oracle and I.B.M., which created the most popular format, the relational data base. However, Microsoft which has only a 4.5 percent market share, is preparing to enter the business. But Ellison, who has taunted Microsoft and Gates for years with barbed, often humorous attacks, may have found a way to confound his opponent. By dispensing with all but a tiny portion of the operating system, Ellison argues, he will be able to offer a faster, cheaper and more stable product than Microsoft's SQL Server 7, a data base for Windows 2000 that will be announced at Comdex. Meeting with reporters at his home in San Francisco, Ellison said, "I don't know why Microsoft should be threatened; we're just saying that you don't need an operating system." Nevertheless, Oracle's strategy could offer direct competition to Windows. The Oracle 8i data base can run multiple Java programs, and it includes its own file system for storing and retrieving documents -- functions typically performed by an operating system. Oracle is still negotiating with computer companies about bundling the new 8i data base program with powerful server hardware, Ellison said. Pricing details have yet to be worked out, but he said he expected the appliance data bases to be on the market by the end of the first quarter of next year. nytimes.com

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 8:53:00 AM
From: b muller	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

good joke---JOKE !!!!!!!! b muller

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 9:45:00 AM
From: DownSouth	Respond to of 74651

>It's just a joke. Hee-hee

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 10:12:00 AM
From: Rich1	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

If I am a clueless idiot what are you?

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/16/1998 12:02:00 PM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 74651

In case y'all have not figured this out, everyone who looks at the link will find themselves to be the 'clueless idiot' - this and the trick link that takes you to your own last post - along with some comment like 'this has to be the worst post I have seen in the last year' - provide endless hours of fun and amusement. Jill the Webmistress used to take a dim view of this but I have often been amused by the responses of the many people who feel compelled to defend their profile or last post when no one else has any idea what they are referring to, since everyone sees a different page when they hit the link.

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/17/1998 1:38:00 AM
From: Bearded One	Respond to of 74651

I disagree with everyone. I thought it was a very funny joke and you nailed me, Beavis. Anyway, I spent the time looking at removable storage media. Nothing relevant to this thread. Castlewood's Orb is COOL. 2 gig removable for $30, works in VCRs. Also saw a 21" flat panel display backlit 1600x1200 resolution UNBELIEVABLE color (none of the graininess you see on most flat panel LCD displays). Something called UXGA, won't be out til next year. I also saw a Softie testing out his system before Comdex started, and he was reading a web page entitled "DOJ and Microsoft." Novell has a big booth allowing everyone to log on and check their email.

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/17/1998 2:36:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 74651

Beanis - Re: "it's just a joke." It's no joke ! Paul

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/17/1998 10:34:00 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Hey, Beavis, You are right, I was a clueless Idiot! Sold at 102, got back in today at 110. However, if the fed had not dropped the rate, I would have been back in at 95.

To: Pink Minion who wrote (12219)	11/17/1998 10:45:00 PM
From: theodore	Respond to of 74651

It's hard to be umble.<eom>