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To: Maxwell who wrote (41547)	11/16/1998 1:11:00 PM
From: Maxwell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572928

Where is AssHok Kumar? He said AMD will miss Christmas with 400MHz. He said yield on 400MHz is less than 1%. What an ass. Maxwell

To: Maxwell who wrote (41547)	11/16/1998 2:58:00 PM
From: Scot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572928

I'm glad to finally see the faster chips. But one thing I haven't really seen discussed on this board is the adoption of AMD by gamers and the associated issues and problems. I realize that gamers are not the largest market, but because they often ride on the bleeding edge, they may provide an early indication of real-world application of PC technology. I've spent a bit of time recently reading reviews of various systems and videocards. In addition, I've read some of the usenet game groups and the posts related to AMD. A lot of what I've read tells me that AMD needs to better implement a plan to get developers to use the 3dnow instructions, and to hurry sharptooth out the door. 3dnow I think most everyone is aware that AMD worked to implement 3dnow in the popular game Quake, and that there is a significant performance benefit. Unfortunately, many other developers are either deciding not to implement 3dnow, or they are promising to add the instructions in a patch. Just review the last several weeks of news at <http://www.3dnow.net> or <http://www.amdzone.com>, and you will see numerous examples where developers have promised implementation through a patch. As you know, not every user has internet access, or the time and ability to search for game patches. Without 3dnow optimization out of the box, many users will not benefit. AMD needs to provide incentives to developers to better implement 3dnow. VideoCards/Hardware There are two videocard chipsets that are king-of-the-hill, the 3dfx voodoo(2) and the nVidia TNT. The 3dfx chip is generally found on 3d-only cards (although a new iteration is available in a 2d/3d solution). The TNT chip is a 2d/3d solution and IMO, I think a single-board videocard solution is much more attractive (who wants to buy 2 or 3 videocards?). Hardware reviews seem to support the premise that the k6-2 does not provide good performance with the TNT. See geocities.com for an interesting comparison of the TNT and voodoo2. I've heard that the new core will alleviate this performance problem. Does anyone else have information on this issue, or can explain the differences. I know there are a lot of posts on usenet where gamers with k6-350/TNT systems are upset because of the poor performance with video cards other than the voodoo. If the new core can solve this problem, it seems that AMD should press its introduction. Yes, I realize there are other, perhaps more significant, issues to introduction of the k6-3. But it would be unfortunate if AMD's reputation was damaged in a community that early-adopts and sets trends. Plus, who wants all those punks to buy celerons to overclock? I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts on this issue. -Scot PS....There is a news item on amdzone.com regarding the clock-lock issue, stating that AMD will not implement one in their chips. I'm not aware of the authority for this assertion, but thought I'd pass it along.