To: riposte who wrote (2798 ) 11/18/1998 10:33:00 AM From: treetopflier Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3424
Steve, OK, I'll contact MY 'pre-sales' friends in the app group at ORCL and spew all the anti-SAP crap I can find on this thread when I have another evening where I am working late like Monday. I'd be MORE THAN HAPPY to do that for you. I'd be even more happy to HELP YOU trounce the support organization at PSFT. I don't have a long position there anymore and could care less. I was primarily referring to other organizations like ORCL that have far more mature support organizations than SAP with regional operations in national languages on every continent in the world. Your friend mistook my comments as a tacit recommendation in favor of PSFT. If you read his comments, which you posted, he slammed all the other app vendors. As for Tuxedo, he/she/it doesn't have a clue and doesn't understand where BEA is going with their product set or where it can and will take PSFT. I am consulting at a very large organization that has been running PSFT for a number of years and is running their entire European operation against databases in the US via PSFT's latest version that uses Tuxedo. They LOVE the performance. It rivals local speeds so save your white paper crap about how it doesn't perform. I'll be happy to take the latest SAP benchmark and explain to this audience exactly how many database and middle-tier servers SAP had to use to achieve those results and how difficult a configuration like that is to manage. Fact is, most regional offices that would need a Tuxedo implementation of PSFT to get at a central database don't have 500 people in that office. The performance implications of that configuration, 500 remote office personnel accessing a local database over a wide-area network connection would be troublesome for ANY of the existing app vendors, SAP included. I'll relish getting DEEPLY into SAP's architecture. Finally there is a poster, or almost a poster, on this thread that may actually understand anything about how SAP works under the covers. Tell your friend to pay up and get an account if he wants to do battle here on the technical side of the product. I paid to play with Syborg on SYBS, he/she/it can pay to play here. Most of us can read basic text. You can save the bolding. Hard on the eyes. I'll be back later. I'm busy watching SAP decline and ORCL/SUNW rise today. See you at $35 again where we'll meet soon. ttf P.S. You'll have to go back a few more SEBL posts if you really want to have any idea what was going on there. If you do, you'll understand why you are headed to $35.