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To: Rambi who wrote (14315)	11/18/1998 10:20:00 AM
From: melinda abplanalp	Respond to of 71178

During my day...(a long time ago)....at Berkeley it wasn't cool. But I am sure times have changed. Can you get a safety record? Call the police and see if there have been problems (very uncool) The most important criteria.......what are his pals going to do.

To: Rambi who wrote (14315)	11/18/1998 11:01:00 AM
From: DScottD	Respond to of 71178

My $0.02 worth on fraternities. I wasn't in a fraternity in college, but that was mostly because I went to a university where frats weren't very big at the time. From observing friends who were fratboys, I have come to the conclusion that the longterm friendships one makes as a fraternity member are the major selling point. A big drawback, once again based on my personal observations, is that the Greeks I knew underperformed in school, especially when they were pledges, because the social/rush/initiation commitments cut into study time. The question becomes, what is more important to CW. I tend to treasure my friendships from college more than my GPA, but without my GPA I wouldn't have gotten into Northwestern Law School, wouldn't have met my wife, and would have missed out on what has been to this point a very satisfying career. If CW is interested in pledging a fraternity, he should be very selective and not let the promise of getting drunk and laid every Saturday night cloud his thinking. Check with the National office of the frats to make sure they are in good standing and haven't been in trouble with the national organization. Check with the University to make sure there haven't been any problems with pledge initiations or with excessive drinking/parties/etc. Like any other major life decision, he should get all the information he can before taking the plunge. Frats have gotten a bad rap lately because of the increasing number of incidents involving excessive drinking and torturous pledge initiations. A few bad apples are probably spoiling the whole barrel.

To: Rambi who wrote (14315)	11/18/1998 2:34:00 PM
From: JF Quinnelly	Respond to of 71178

urp! To-ga! To-ga! To-ga! Just rent Animal House

To: Rambi who wrote (14315)	11/18/1998 7:35:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Penni, My favorite among the numerous universities I attended was one where there were no fraternities or sororities, not by executive fiat but by total lack of student interest. It was odd in other ways as well. Much allocation of funds was by student vote; intramural sports got double the money that intercollegiate ones did, and when I was there 75% of the students were enrolled in some intramural sport. I think it's much better that way; I also think that fraternities are a ridiculous anachronism. Yes, you can make friends in a fraternity. You can also make them outside a fraternity. Plus, you don't have to treat total jerks as if they were friends just because they happen to belong to the same club. Steve