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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12321)11/18/1998 2:34:00 PM
From: TigerPaw  Respond to of 74651
 
Java. Unless some application software companies embrace this technology

I haven't seen a sucessfull application in Java. I have seen a whole host of information gathering and display on WEB sites using JAVA. It's fast becoming the medium of exchange for the data that is run in the more normal applications.

TP



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12321)11/18/1998 2:45:00 PM
From: paul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
how about Oracle 8i with a built in Java Virtual machine. Every major database vendor is incorporating Java in the database replacing PL/SQL, Transact*SQL - in other words its becoming the universal data access and storage mechanism from client to datatier. The middle tear with Enterprise Java Beans is going to be pretty much all Java.

as far as SAP, PSFT - i dont think there really the best indicators - they could run on mainframes and often do - the ERP packages are a lot more about business process than underlying technology.

I will look for the link but Forrester had a quip that 80% of Fortune 500 firms are building mission critical java applications by end of 1999- sounds good to me.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12321)11/18/1998 4:11:00 PM
From: ToySoldier  Respond to of 74651
 
Michelle,

Have you ever heard about the IBM SanFransisco project. Check into it and then tell me again what you think.

I would suggest you pull your head out of the MSFT sand and look at the real world. BTW - what does "infancy stage" mean to you? To me that mean Java is just starting to entrench itself and mature.

If you think Java is only a passing fad that will go away, you are quite naive. If it is really not a big deal then why did MSFT put so much effort into its own Java-mutation effort? And why did MSFt put up such a big fight in defending its continued use of Java? They could so easily have gone to Sun and said, I dont want to go to court. We will just stop any further use of Java since it is not going to be a big factor in the future. Instead they put up a huge fight against it!

It is also ironic that if MSFT doesnt consider Java to be a big future technology factor for them, they sure were quick to "clarify" Maritz's statement of abandoning JAva from all their products.

Please explain after you do a little research...

Cheers

Toy