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To: Stephen O who wrote (23111)	11/18/1998 2:59:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116856

<< I think the paranoia over Y2K is getting out of hand. Water flows through pipes not through computers. Gravity has a lot to do with it and they need electricity for pumps. But I suspect there are backup generators. Who gives a fig if they calculate the bill wrong. If computers malfunction I am sure there is a man to turn the handles on valves. Suppliers will only be a concern later on. No sceduled type maintenance will be happening Jan 1-6 anywhere. >> I am interested to hear from you what topics in the report of the AWWA makes you so confident that there will be NO major problems with the delivery of drinking water after Y2k. TO ME, the stated state of remediation the Y2k problems a these utilities is not reassuring AT ALL. Regards, John awwa.org

To: Stephen O who wrote (23111)	11/18/1998 3:34:00 PM
From: ali	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116856

Steven O, I agree with you wholeheartedly.This y2k is mostly a red herring to either get new systems sold or just plain to scare the not care and no know public into spending more money.I have no clue about y2k,but have a son who has been working with major computer co's here and in Europe for the last 15 years and has a degree in computing science and he tells me that the whole thing is overblown and that those outfits who have not switched by now deserve all the problems they are getting.He does not believe for a moment that the banking nor stock exchanges(his field) will have any problem at all.So why all this fuss?The water problem in my town will certainly not have any problem as I know that system very well. Now to gold and the gold Euro.Having lived through ww2 in Europe I would think a united Europe would be great,but until ALL the nations of Europe decide to give up their selfishness, I still believe a still birth of Euroland is possible.for the last 20 years most countries in Europe have lived off Germany.I doubt the German people will go for that indefinitely.That leads me to gold.How many countries in Europe do you think have a stable currency?The ruble 10 years ago was stable and backed up by a stable government.Look at it now.Not possible here you say?

To: Stephen O who wrote (23111)	11/18/1998 3:35:00 PM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116856

re: Y2k hype There are elect.generation plants that have gone to near total computer controls, My father worked at one. The computers reduced required number of manhours greatly. Reduced them so much that it was near impossible(and they were smaller in those days) to cope when a computer problem happened. I don't know if the problems are fixed, but I can well remember the double shifts reqd. when problems came up. Due to takeovers / mergers their supply region is far larger than it was then, with many more inter-connections. Yes, I trust them and the local company(their partner in a merger), but I'm not taking chances, after all the Denver brown-outs this summer, I hooking up a back-up generator.!. Just two days in the middle of winter in denver could be a bad. rh