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To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (24332)	11/18/1998 5:09:00 PM
From: EPS	Respond to of 42771

Sorry to learn that your are cranky today George, Have nothing against Joe Antol. Had very nice correspondence with him. Paul on the other hand is an idiot. Here have fun To: +TTOSBT (66822 ) From: +Paul Fiondella Saturday, Oct 17 1998 9:54PM ET Reply # of 68720 Short covering??? It didn't happen. I wish I could continue this discussion but frankly the evidence is there for all to read. People are selling the techs and selling the rallies. There is no short squeeze. There was no follow through rally. INTC did not rocket upwards as it would have in the past. About the most you can say is there was an options expiration. But that doesn't explain this Bear market activity in the techs (going down on really good news). I really wish it were otherwise and we had seen a real move up by INTC, MSFT, CSCO etc. etc. Friday. But that didn't happen. I fell sorry for anyone whose net worth is tied up in this market (with some notable exceptions such as the truly piggy Mister Baiter). The Fed just doesn't do rate reductions between meetings for the fun of it. There is something they know that we do not yet know. Like the mysterious Bankers Trust problems. This is a suckers rally. Sorry but I can't comment beyond that. Good luck if you are still long in this market. You'll need it.

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (24332)	11/18/1998 6:11:00 PM
From: Spartex	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

George, I too disagree a bit with your perspective on certain poster's here on this board. We are fortunate to get solid and prolific news links by posters such as DJBEINO, and some others who interject points of views on NOVL's products and future. But I find it really strange for those who were so involved in bringing issues to NOVL's management, to suddenly turn against it, once management brings in someone as valuable as Eric Schmidt. Furthermore, they expected results to happen in a few months rather than more like 12-18 months. Novell isn't a portal or eCommerce company like NSCP, YHOO or AMZN, where mention of new portal deals with AOL, banks etc. cause their stocks to rocket 20+% a day, while little revenue, or profits no less, are even in sight. I mean, just look at AMZN.....we're selling CD's today, videos tomorrow, and toys for X-mas and the stock rockets further and further. Yeah, its frustrating sometimes to see these rockets taking off all around us, while NOVL just chugs slowly upward, with a few sparks every now and then. But to bad mouth a company (or other bullish posters) after one actually sees changes coming into place is self defeating IMHO. Its denial that the past is past, and the present is the future. As you know I take a neutral position as a poster and try not to get emotional in my opinions. Sometimes it doesn't work, but showing that effort counts. Either way, with easy access to the internet we unfortunately have to deal with all extremes. Still humbly long, QuadK

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (24332)	11/18/1998 6:29:00 PM
From: Edward E. Shure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

George Where and to whom would you market the results of said verification of trading P/L? EES

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (24332)	11/19/1998 11:20:00 AM
From: dwight vickers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

George, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "As far as showing off on predictions....I just shake my head. I am thinking about starting a firm that will independently compute the investment performance of posters who keep challenging themselves here in SI (or anywhere) and declare the winner officially in a website. Venture capital anyone?<g>" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Please, if bandwidth and time permit (not likely), declare all the losers, also. Dwight

To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (24332)	11/19/1998 12:00:00 PM
From: Spartex	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42771

George: <<As far as showing off on predictions....I just shake my head. I am thinking about starting a firm that will independently compute the investment performance of posters who keep challenging themselves here in SI (or anywhere) and declare the winner officially in a website. Venture capital anyone?<g> >> Actually yahoo has a version of this ($100,000 play money) each month, and you can see the list of winners and losers, and also the trades/holdings that they have made. Of course its only play money, but the winners do get cars and real $$$$$$. Some of these traders (the top ones) are doing 400-500% gains in 3 weeks. Boggles the mind. quote.yahoo.com