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To: Trebor who wrote (2183)11/19/1998 2:47:00 PM
From: Math Junkie  Respond to of 15132
 
<<I thought by identifying the block of stock I wanted to sell (the block I've held the longest or paid the most for) I could do this buy-then-sell transaction in less time than 31 days.>>

That only works if the block you identify has a low enough basis that you will not be selling it at a loss. You can avoid a wash sale in the period 30 days before to 30 days after a purchase by not having a loss, or by selling all your shares of that security by the end of the year.

-Richard
(Not a tax professional - consult a tax professional for authoritative advice)



To: Trebor who wrote (2183)11/19/1998 10:49:00 PM
From: Greg Jung  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15132
 
I'll offer a second response, at odds but again qualified by
nothing but general (non definitive) knowledge. If I understand
your question, for example:

lot 12345 200 shares bought 3/98 $40
lot 11111 300 shares bought 9/24/98 $30
lot 22222 700 shares bought 10/8/98 $5

Now the stock is at $20.

It is my understanding that if you sold
500 shares on 10/26/98 for say $15 you would have a short-term
gain of $10x500 = $5000. There is probably a last-in-first-out rule, -however- I believe this rule can be overridden by specifying
which shares are to be sold. So you specify the 500 is from
lots 12345 and 11111 so you have a short-term loss of $20*200 + $10*300. The basis of the remaining 700 shares is $5. I don't know the mechanics of specifying lots, it seems like a royal PIA to formally do it with the brokerage and it may be sufficient in your own bookkeeping.

Greg



To: Trebor who wrote (2183)11/20/1998 2:00:00 PM
From: marc ultra  Respond to of 15132
 
Bob,re wash sale: I think the rule is pretty clear and for me there is only one way to avoid it. Whether designating specific shares or otherwise, if you expect to take a tax loss on any sale then you better not buy any of the same or similar security within 30 days before or 30 days after your sale. While you can't take a tax loss for such a sale I believe it may change the basis of the securities which is the kind of stuff I care leave to my CPA.

Marc