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To: exhon2004 who wrote (81432)11/19/1998 10:31:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Respond to of 176387
 
<Java> Ruling May Have Little Impact on Microsoft

Greg:
Intel sold out!!! WOW I hope we got our share already allocated,I hope loyalty means something to Intel.

Don't know about CPQ,well they can always sell the cheap crap based on AMD.<g>

Looks like this JAVA ruling will have little or no effect on MSFT or its plan,now that is good ain't it?
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Updated 2.43 p.m. ET (1943 GMT) November 19, 1998

By Christopher Jones

SAN FRANCISCO — When U.S. District Judge Ronald Whyte ordered Microsoft Corp to make its products more compatible with Sun's version of Java, the Redmond ego appeared bruised. After a good night's sleep and a closer look at the decision, Microsoft says the ruling will have little effect on its strategy.

Gates is not among the 24 witnesses who will testify in person at the trial.

"We had a more negative initial reaction than was justified," said Tom Button, Microsoft's director of product management for development tools. "We've now had 24 hours to understand the ruling ... and we've found that it will have a negligible impact on our development strategy. What the judge issued was very mild compared to what Sun was asking."

On Tuesday, the company's lawyers sang a different tune, going so far as to suggest the court ruling could end Microsoft's support of Java.

"The option of not supporting Java is open to us," said Microsoft's Tom Burt, associate general counsel in a telephone conference after Tuesday's ruling. "And we are considering all our options."

Under the ruling, Microsoft is not required to recall any products. But it must alter code within its Java Virtual Machine that includes Sun's Java Naming Interface, or JNI. Microsoft said it had tweaked that part of code to optimize the software's performance on Windows.

"This is a relatively theoretical requirement because we don't think developers will write to JNI," said Button. "Since they already decided to write application-specific code-so there's no benefit to writing to JNI — it's an inferior way to write Windows code. Being required to ship JNI just means more bytes on a disc, and we can comply with that."

Whyte ordered Microsoft to stop shipping development tools for Java unless they are modified to be compatible with Sun's version of the Java platform.

Microsoft was also ordered to change the default mode of its compiler and development environment so that developers understand that when they use Windows — specific keywords — or extensions to the Java language-the resulting applications won't work outside Microsoft's Java Virtual Machine.

"That's a non-issue," Button said. "This is all about building great Windows applications ... so we'll just be telling people what they already know," he said.

Sun spokeswoman Lisa Poulson said that the requirement for Microsoft to ship an unaltered version of the Java language is significant in and of itself. It represents "an important message to end users and developers."

"Microsoft will ship a Java implementation that is compliant for the first time," she said. "That means a lot, and we're very gratified to see that.... From a technical perspective, if they think this is an easy problem to solve, that's great."

(Source:Reuters/via Fox



To: exhon2004 who wrote (81432)11/20/1998 8:23:00 AM
From: rudedog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
Greg -
Think a recalcitrant cpq gets preference over loyal dell?
As I have discussed both here and on the CPQ thread the answer is yes, CPQ gets preference.

Intel is 'all business' when it comes to chip sales. CPQ is Intel's largest customer, especially in high-end chips where they buy nearly 4 times as many as anyone else. They also place long term, fixed-delivery orders, which helps Intel predict manufacturing runs.

During the summer when there was a shortage of Xeon chips because of the production problems, CPQ got first allocation. They got it because they had placed firm orders early on, and because of their volume.

This is one place where the JIT model hurts Dell.