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To: Brendan W who wrote (5302)11/21/1998 1:33:00 AM
From: MCsweet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78594
 
Buyback

Regarding LDRY's buyback, I think that to best serve their
existing shareholders, most companies should offer stock
when it is overpriced and buy back when it is underpriced.
(Unless they really don't need the money in the case of
selling and do need the money in the case of buying back.) So
I am almost always happy to see these buybacks. Of course, I
can't praise management in light of poor performance leading
to huge stock declines, but you have to put some of the blame
on shareholders for over-optimistic expectations, even if
management encourages some of these expectations. For instance,
I would not blame the executives at Yahoo (or any of these internet
stocks) if their shares went to 1/4 of their value, considering
that it is the shareholders themselves that have priced in such
high expectations.

MC



To: Brendan W who wrote (5302)11/21/1998 1:40:00 AM
From: MCsweet  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 78594
 
Buying on stocks on sale

In the spirit of STAR and LDRY, we have Rainforest
cafe RAIN, a growth stock turned value with solid
cash flows and earnings, no debt, PB < 1, and lots
of cash. (IPO at 12 and Secondary offering at 21,
now at 7 and company has been buying back)

It appears that investors are now unhappy with
"theme" restaurants (Dave and Busters, Planet Hollywood,
etc.) In light of low expectations, I think RAIN offers
a good risk/reward trade-off.

In a different arena, Thornburg Management (TMA) looks
attractive. It is a beat-up mortgage REIT. I know mortgage
REITS are not exactly high-quality investments (generally are
highly leveraged and cash flow negative, yuk), but TMA appears
to be the most forthcoming and conservative of the
bunch. It is way below book value (and book value consists
of actual investments, not property) and lowered interest
rates should greatly help company.

The most major risk is a lack of liquidity such that it would
have to sell off its investments at bargain basement prices.
However, it is buying back stock and paying high dividends,
so apparently it thinks it can weather the current crisis in debt
markets (caused by Asian crisis and LTCM) and return to solid
earnings growth. Also, the CEO bought $600K worth in Oct.,
so he is putting his money where his mouth is.

So I would suggest TMA as a somewhat speculative buy. I am
extremely high on TMA, with my reservations due to high debt
and my lack of understanding of the nuances of the mortgage
industry (although my understanding has been approving as
I have been tracking the industry for the past few months).

Any thoughts on these or related stocks would be welcome.

MC



To: Brendan W who wrote (5302)11/23/1998 11:02:00 AM
From: Brendan W  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78594
 
Is anybody excited about Fleming (FLM)? I'm not because I don't know or understand the business, but it is at historical lows, has considerable scale, and is very attractive on P/B and P/S criteria. I think they may get new management soon, too. They are a leading food distributor.