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To: PROLIFE who wrote (22225)11/20/1998 6:15:00 PM
From: Darrin Vernier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Dan,

Again, it is in the interpretation. These passages do not speak of a Christ upon a cross that hangs upon a church wall. Paul spoke of the introspection and revelations of an inner Christ. Jesus, in The Way that Paul understood him, is He's Us. Jesus, whether the historical or the Christos is not an object, but a process. The process of removing all that is not light is exactly what the Jews were also describing, as what is not light is not God. Fears, demons, and Satan are nonexistant, and are merely beliefs in a lack of light. Paul did not wish to further the eternal celebration of the murder of Jesus, he sought to further the development of the inner Christ in everyone. It is most important whether you believe in an historical Jesus or not, that you see this process, for that is what Jesus wanted us to know, not to glorify his murder.

The Roman church came up with the name "Agnostic" to identify one who does not believe in Christ. The prefix "A" means "not". So to not believe in Christ means "not to be Gnostic". Paul believed in Christ, though he had never met him, but he believed on a different level than you. He believed in the Christos within Christ, and the Christos within all of us, and not the image of Christ hanging on a wall, which was only Christ's body. Jesus was not his body. And it is the fixation upon his and our bodies that keeps us from tapping into the true process that was Christ, that he was trying to teach. If you wish to walk to God through Jesus, to get 'through' him, you must first step within him, and that process is what Jesus wanted us to follow, to walk in his footsteps. See us within him, and him within us. He taught us who he is not so we would worship him, but so we would see that we, are he. Our responsibility of true judgement is no less than Christ's, and his lessons show you how to do it. I do not believe in shirking responsibility and placing my salvation in another. "I will show you the correct path, however, I will not do your walking for you". If Jesus is carrying your load for you, you aren't on the correct path. Jesus is a brother and a teacher, not a mule. He taught us to carry ourselves, in his teachings.

The Christ that Paul believed in never died, and those that seek him, can follow in his footsteps, for they are but a continuation of him. God is eternal and inifinite. How could inifinite love be defined spacially by the boundary of your body, and be defined timewise in relation to your lifetime? If you believe he did not come into your until you received him, then you believe that God's love is not everywhere. You believe in not. Gnostics believe that he is everywhere, and that he never died.

Peace,
Darrin