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To: Mack who wrote (2105)	11/21/1998 4:34:00 PM
From: Tim Luke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7382

what the hell difference does it make??? they all are crooks and we ALL are greedy shts if you disagree you are full of sht....we all are here to make as much money as we can off of each trade including MM and the firms...it's me against the world and the world against me.....if my very best friend goes the opposite way in a trade then i do i hope he gets his ass handed to him and i walk away with the win....and i'm quite sure he or she will feel the same way....this is what this business has been about since day one ....GREED!!! we are all greedy PERIOD....

To: Mack who wrote (2105)	11/21/1998 5:08:00 PM
From: scanshift	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7382

Mack: I have a life, do you? Insulting people son, is no way to go through life. You do not have a clue about what goes on at the Terra Nova ECN. No one looks at your order with their own eyes, it is a sophisticated computer software program that constantly gets a feel if there is enough size on a bid or offer, along with some other parameters, where it would then be worth a shot to step in front of that size and take down a trade for their proprietary account for a quick scalp. Remember, I was involved with these trade opportunity search type programs with dual listed equity options in the early days of Terra Nova. I discussed that in an earlier post. If you are questioning the ability of Terra Nova to program this type of software, just take a look at the sophistication of the Chicago Project. lasalletrading.com You are not apparently interested in the truth or the integrity of the principals behind the Terra Nova ECN, and that is your right. However, there may be other individuals who are and they have that right. The facts speak for themselves; fortunately Lewis Borsellino got some of the truth on the record in the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois County Department, Chancery Division Case # 98 CH001363 IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE TO FORWARD YOU A COPY OF THIS LAWSUIT It was interesting how quickly Terra Nova and Townsend payed him off though? Getting him to sign a confidentiality agreement where he would not discuss what he knew about the Terra Nova ECN and the Chicago Trading and Arbitrage SOES room they were all involved in is also pretty significant. That just leaves me, the man who found Townsend and put him together with Putnam and Borsellino. I know the truth, and I have all the documents and references I need to support it. The fact that Townsend and Putnam have screwed with my ability to get SCANSHIFT put on Reuters, along with the fact that I am yet to see a dime of the revenues that should be coming my way, motivated me to finally expose what I know about their operations and their character. Did I mention that Townsend did important programming work for the Reuters Instinet "Analytics" program? That whole story is fascinating and one that I will save for another time.

To: Mack who wrote (2105)	11/21/1998 5:08:00 PM
From: wily	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7382

>>Please take your scandalous and bitter ramblings off MY broker's thread. MB may be your broker, but it's not MB's thread. It's ABOUT MB, but it belongs to SI. Personally, Scan's posts are some of the more interesting I've read, and that's saying something. Here is an individual with a unique history in the trading world and something valuable to say, (and the cahones to say it). Like Tim, I found his remarks credible from the get-go, because they reflect the same game-playing and machinations that I've witnessed everywhere in this biz. It's just getting harder to identify it because of the electronic distance that separates everything nowadays, more and more. wily