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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (22310)	11/22/1998 12:35:00 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Alan; I have learned my lessons through experience because I could not believe what was written and would not take learned advice from elders. I used to curse myself because I always had to learn the hard way, some times over and over. The human learning experience is usually difficult because we are by nature forever fighting change. Change is scary and unknown and our routines are well established and familiar, therefore being the path of least resistance. I was once told a funny antecdote about a yard dog that kept coming through the back screen door and the owner hit him across the nose with a rolled up newspaper and the dog never came back through the door. We are not like that for some reason. I do encourage Darrin and Sam to continue to express their understanding of God because we must not become close minded or ridgid in our thinking lest it be to our detriment. If your faith and walk with God is strong, than you should be able to stand, unless they are saying something that makes sense, involves change and is too scary to contemplate. God encourages me to prove Him and His Word but the final judge must be the Holy Spirit within us as to right or wrong. Please consider who established many of the rituals that most Christians observe and follow today. Do some research on Pope/Emperor Constantine and the Catholic line of the Innocents and you may come away with a deeper understanding of our history. Don't think that I am telling you what to do. I am only asking all of us to be more tolerant and open minded. Change we must, or we would never have moved out of the Dark Ages. All my best to you in Christ's name, Santiago

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (22310)	11/22/1998 12:36:00 AM
From: Darrin Vernier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Alan, It is ridiculous for you to say for me that I do not believe in the Bible. Simply because I interpret it differently you claim that I do not believe. God forbid anyone should have an interpretation that includes everything in love and harmony. You are right, that is blasphemy. Far better to preach a belief in Satan, fear, guilt, and sin. It is amazing how much you know for one who admits to not even reading much of the Bible. Your ears are deaf to the words of the very book whose interpretation of you are trying to defend sight unseen. It does not surprise me that there are those who would judge and condemn others without knowing, that's exactly what was done to Jesus. Jesus preached a new way of life based upon life, love and perfection, and not fear, guilt, sin, and death. You call the people who would follow his instructions conceited, and you consider it blessed to revel in his blood, and hold a belief in sin and death. I took a cursory glance at those webpages, and it amazes me that you find them warped compared to your interpretation. You would call life and love blasphemy, and instead keep insisting upon the importance of sin, evil, and death. That is not conceited, merely tragic. I do not say you do not believe in the Bible, I simply say that you have picked all the wrong messages within it in which to believe. You create your own world with what you believe. If what you believe makes you happy, then I'm glad for you. But it is absoultely ridiculous to call those who preach love and life blasphemous. Those you say blaspheme speak of those things most Holy, while you seem to be fixated upon the relics of evil and death. Peace, Darrin